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Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.
When will my nomination be reviewed?
This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first, it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions below). Because of WP:DYKTIMEOUT, a nomination should be reviewed within two months since the reviewer/promoter may agree to reject and close an unpromoted hook after that time has passed.
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If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.
If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page or with the closer, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances. If your nomination was promoted, but it hasn't reached the main page after two weeks, you can also query this on the DYK discussion page.
Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For more information on the DYK rules and review processes, see the DYK guidelines and the reviewer instructions.
To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:
Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:
Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.
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If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.
Check to make sure basic review requirements were completed.
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Check the article history for any substantive changes since it was nominated or reviewed.
Images for the lead slot must be freely licensed. Fair-use images are not permitted. Images loaded on Commons that appear on the Main Page are automatically protected by KrinkleBot.
Hook must be stated in both the article and source (which must be cited at the end of the article sentence where stated).
Hook should make sense grammatically.
Try to vary subject matters within each prep area.
Try to select a funny, quirky or otherwise upbeat hook for the last or bottom hook in the set.
Steps to add a hook to prep
In one tab, open the nomination page of the hook you want to promote.
In a second tab, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
Wanna skip all this fuss? Install WP:PSHAW instead! Does most of the heavy lifting for ya :)
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Copy and paste the hook into a chosen slot.
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If it's the lead (first) hook, paste the image where indicated at the top of the template.
Copy and paste ALL the credit information (the {{DYKmake}} and {{DYKnom}} templates) at the bottom
Check your work in the prep's Preview mode.
At the bottom under "Credits", to the right of each article should have the link "View nom subpage" ; if not, a subpage parameter will need to be added to the DYKmake.
Save the Prep page.
Closing the DYK nomination page
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Also paste the same thing into the edit summary.
Check in Preview mode. Make sure everything is against a pale blue background (nothing outside) and there are no stray characters, like }}, at the top or bottom.
Open the DYK nomination subpage of the nomination you would like to remove.
In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.
Alternatively, you can use PSHAW, which automates the process.
Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
View the edit history for that page
Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.
Source: [1] «En la denominación de la compañía [...] el significado intrínseco de la palabra voltio» El “voltio” es la unidad [...] para medir el potencial eléctrico [...]. Translation: «In the name of the company [...] the intrinsical meaning of the word voltio» The volt is the unit [...] to measure the electric potential.
ALT1: ... that Voltio(cars pictured) has the biggest car fleet in Spain? Source: [2] Voltio se consolida como el servicio de coche compartido líder en España al poseer la mayor flota del país. Voltio consolidates itself as the leader of carsharing in Spain as it has the biggest fleet in the country.
ALT2: ... that Voltio's name derives from an expression that translates to "going for a walk"? Source: [3] [El nombre] se complementa con el significado coloquial 'darse un voltio', salir de algún lugar para dar una vuelta. [The name] complements with the coloquial meaning of 'darse un voltio', meaning to go for a walk.
@Earth605: Article is new and long enough, external policy compliant, and is presentable. The hooks are cited to reliable sources and are interesting. Images are freely licensed and a QPQ was carried out. ALT0 is a bit of a borderline case for interestingness; it's common for companies to be named after their industry and some may not find it interesting. ALT1 is a contentious claim; although the policy states that it's okay to have such hooks, it's a bit controversial these days to nominate such a hook, and it's a little promotional for my liking. I will approve ALT2, but the source says that the phrase complements the company's name, not that the company was named after that specific phrase (courtesy pinging Reverosie, who may be interested in this discussion). Icepinner03:14, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for reviewing! One detail. I did not need to do the QPQ, I just mentioned it cuz why not? About ALT0, the company is a carsharing company, not an electricity company. ALT1 was meant to be an image hook and ALT2 was the normal hook. ALT2 says that the name "derives" from the expression, which is not the same as it comes from it, but I understand your reasoning. IcepinnerEarth605talk15:37, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Earth605: Regarding ALT0, I am aware that this is a carsharing company. Reiterating my point, it's common for car companies, and car-sharing companies, to be named after things assoicated with their industry (example: Tesla is named after Nikola Tesla), so I considered it to be a borderline case. However, I am willing to seek out a third opinion for ALT0, if you're interested. The source of ALT2 says A su vez, se complementa con el significado coloquial 'darse un voltio', salir de algún lugar para dar una vuelta, which roughly translates to It is also complemented by the colloquial meaning of 'taking a little break,' which means going out for a walk, meaning it complements the phrase (makes the company's name "Voltio" look better, for a lack of a better word), not that it originated from that specfic phrase. I'm also willing to seek for a third opinion on this hook as well. Icepinner02:31, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In the case of ALT0, I'm actually okay with it as it (as long as it's made clear that it's referring to the unit volt and not some other usage), but maybe a short clause explaining why would increase hook interest and address the concerns? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:14, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It means that a version of ALT0 that explains why the company was named after the volt could work. So instead of "that Voltio is named after the volt", it could be "that car sharing company Voltio is named after the volt because/to [insert reason here]?" It would admittedly make for a longer hook, but it could also solve the context and interest issues. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:53, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I wouldn't mind it if ALT0 had a short clause explaning why it was named after the volt. I still think ALT2 has potential, like ALT2a: "... that a Spanish carsharing company's name is complemented by a phrase for "taking a walk"?". Pretty interesting that a carsharing company's name complements an expression for taking a walk. Icepinner14:40, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, theleekycauldron, for the notice. I don't have any comments on the subject's notability to warrant its own Wikipedia article, but I note that this nomination is fast approaching WP:DYKTIMEOUT, so this is a matter that needs to be resolved, Earth605 and HighKing. The nomination could be placed on hold if, say, a formal AFD was started. Icepinner05:13, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Look, it is notable. It is the biggest carsharing company in Spain. I pass Voltio cars every day. Also, there are innumerable US carsharing articles. Getaround, Gig Car Share, Uhaul Car Share and Zipcar. There are many diverse articles of a lot of countries, but there is 1 carsharing Spanish article. I've changed the writing a bit to emphasize this. @HighKing: this is notable Earth605talk06:55, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Earth605 I spotted this at DYK and rather than take it straight to AfD I though it best to tag the article with a detailed reasoning as to why it was tagged. There hasn't been any engagement with the concerns and it may be that they weren't understood or were too vague so I've provided reasoning and an analysis of sources on your Talk page. None meet the criteria for establishing notability and searching myself, I can't locate anything that meets the criteria but if you can, ping me at your talk page with a link to the article and pointing out which paragraph or part of the article you believe meets the criteria. If we can get a couple of sources, we can remove the tag on the article.
@Theleekycauldron, Icepinner, and Highking: The nomination will turn two months old in a couple of days, so in the interest of having a resolution either way, I would suggest starting an AFD. The nomination will go on hold anyway once that happens, so either way, the nomination won't be closed or proceed until after the AFD finishes. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:12, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, disappointingly I don't think this is ready to go. You responded by mentioning two sources which I'd already commented on. They do not meet GNG/NCORP, I've provided reasoning. I'll see how this pans out but perhaps AfD is where this one is heading after all. HighKing++ 18:57, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also - if anyone feels it is better to put it to AfD, feel free, in the interests of time. I have to say, if the concern is solely about whether this notable, I'm happy to give Earthsea a chance to come up with sourcing that meets GNG/NCORP, but if there is a time-sensitivity about DYK, then feel free to get it to AfD. HighKing++ 19:04, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@HighKing: The nomination turns two months old on November 28 (it already is where I am), which would make it eligible for timing out, so it is probably better to bring this to AFD. AFD would give the benefit of the nomination being put on hold until after the discussion, so it would act like an extension giving the circumstances. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:25, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Jeff Baena was encouraged to pitch his nun comedy movie The Little Hours after talking about medieval literature (depicted) while high and watching DOGTV?
ALT1: ... that members of the six-person crew for The Little Hours had to light some scenes with candles, which the cinematographer wicked herself?
ALT2: ... that preemptive religious criticism about nun movie The Little Hours ended up being used in an R-rated trailer to promote the movie?
ALT4: ... that writer-director Jeff Baena was high when he came up with The Little Hours, and producer-actor Aubrey Plaza was high when she promoted it (both pictured)?
ALT5: ... that The Little Hours was based on at least three stories from The Decameron, primarily the third day (depicted)?
Comment: Sources in article, other hook suggestions welcome!
Improved to Good Article status by Kingsif (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 144 past nominations.
Drive-by comment: there is absolutely no way that the image shown to illustrate The Decameron in the hook and the article is attributable to Boccacio (who did not illustrate anything); it looks like a very modern, and therefore quite possibly copyrighted, illustration. This would be a good substitute in the article; do we really need it in the hook as well? Dahn (talk) 21:39, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Dahn: The image you link - along with every single Commons image for the Decameron I saw when looking for one to add to the article - also has Boccaccio listed as the creator. Maybe he did illustrate, I doubt the Boccaccio museum is getting its attribution that wrong. Kingsif (talk) 04:50, 30 November 2025 (UTC) (More to the point, the illustration in this nom and the article is from the publication by Francisque Reynard, who was born in 1835, so unless he was particularly long-lived, it's still PD-old.) Kingsif (talk) 04:58, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As for an image in the hook: DYK image hooks are often buildings and portraits. When I build preps, I try to add variety; when I nom hooks, if it's possible, I try to suggest other kinds of images, too, for other prepbuilders to have more options and our readers to see different things. It's providing an option. Kingsif (talk) 04:54, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Dahn: My mistake if the file data isn't scraped directly from the museum website, but the point was simply that for both images, the file seems to have the same error (saying Boccaccio is the image author) but the license is still correct. Kingsif (talk) 05:06, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The image is now credited to "Gershkovich", who appears to be Yuri Gershkovich. A Soviet artist who died in 2013. The image is very much copyrighted, and it should be removed from commons ASAP, along with any other image that was uploaded in this fashion. It obviously does njot matter when Francisque Reynard died, since these are copyrighted illustrations to her reedited public-domain work -- her PD status does not transfer to the illustrator. Dahn (talk) 05:04, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is moving beyond ridiculous! First of all, Reynard never illustrated anything (just like Boccaccio didn't), so the claim that she did would require proof from whomever is sticking by it. Second of all, you never actually provided a link to where the museum credits the illustrator. Third (and final), I looked it up for you: Dekameron. I / Traduzione di N. Ljubimov ; illustrazioni di Ju. Gerskovich -- clearly crediting Yuri Gershkovich as the illustrator and the publication date as 1987. (Incidentally, this is also not the Reynard translation into French, but a Russian translation). Are we done here? Dahn (talk) 05:19, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I need to make this very clear to anyone taking an interest in this issue: the illustration presented with this hook has several faux licenses, including a statement that: "The author died in 1375, so this work is in the public domain in its country of origin and other countries and areas where the copyright term is the author's life plus 100 years or fewer." This is based on the absurd claim that the illustration is Boccacio's work, a claim that the same caption now contradicts, since Yuri Gershkovich (who died in 2013) is also credited as an author -- he is in fact the only actual author that the image has, whereas Boccacio is the author of the text which the image illustrated. All such uploads from that series should therefore be scrubbed from Commons. Dahn (talk) 15:16, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No. If the main issue is the images, then the solution is simply to run the article without an image. I imagine though that the rather long and complicated discussion above has discouraged editors from reviewing this. Anyway, a full review is still needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:40, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If the only issue is the images, but the article itself otherwise meets the requirements and there are no other problems, then the solution is to remove the pictures, not to fail the nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:15, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I had specified as my fist words that this is a comment, not a review. However, I do feel strongly that the image should be deleted from Commons. I also presented a substitute image that can be used if that aspect of the film (as in: what inspired it) really needs to be illustrated. I dislike the implicit suggestion that I committed some faux-pas by commenting here, or by answering to the entrenched claim that the copyrighted image is somehow PD and "by Boccacio". Dahn (talk) 17:02, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: The primary hook is fine by me (with the parenthetical "depicted" note removed and no potentially copyvio image). If anyone wants something else, the part about adding "the Catholic League's article calling The Little Hours 'trash, pure trash' to their marketing materials" (i.e., something along the lines of ALT2) might be the place to look.
-- Cl3phact0 (talk) 12:27, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Cl3phact0: Dahn getting angry about my perfectly fine replies being "ridiculous"? No, they can go off and be angry about the image they suggested indeed having "faux licenses" instead and sarcastically ask themself if they're done as if they're talking to a moron. No, I don't engage with comments made that are not aiming for information or discussion, just someone throwing around their supposed insight like a WP:JERK, so I can't see any issue to address besides maybe reporting some incivility. Kingsif (talk) 15:07, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Kingsif, Dahn, and Narutolovehinata5: I'm only trying to help get this nom promoted in the most linear and angst-free manner possible. I'm not really interested in getting stuck in the middle of a dispute. Everything else looks good (see DYK template), so if there is even a remote possibility that the Gerskovich illustration will cause issues downstream (and turn this into another Snakes and ladders waste of time – an allergy that I've developed of late), then perhaps the simplest thing to do here would be to remove the image. Will that work for everyone? Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 15:37, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing I have said here is intended as a comment in the article, its content, or the hooks, nor intended to shoot down the nomination. The image, however, should be immediately removed from the article, and ideally from Commons -- it is in clear breach of copyright policies. I stand by the notion that defending it as an image by Boccacio (which is still claimed on the license used on Commons) is indeed ridiculous, not least of all because Boccacio never illustrated anything. Gershkovich is the author, as credited by the museum where this image was originally found, and he died just 12--13 years ago. Dahn (talk) 16:27, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the curtesy link. Bearing this in mind, unless there is any objection, I am simply going to remove the image from both the article and the nom, and finalise this review (as everything else is good to go). Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 11:04, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My review
Article:
Newness and length:OK
Sources:Reliable and inline
Neutrality:
Copyvio: No issues in prose
Issues to fix before approval:
The Gershkovich illustration used in the article and hook is not public domain and should be removed or replaced.
The hook should remove the parenthetical "(depicted)" since no free image will be used.
The VICE News source may need to be moved to the end of the sentence it supports (minor fix).
Hook:
Factually accurate and cited.
Interesting and suitable.
Will be acceptable once the image issue is fixed.
Status:
Maybe but pending removal of the non-free image.
5626océane (talk) 23:05, 12 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2: ... that for the video where a fictional Russian deputy allegedly detonates a bus stop with a grenade launcher, the authors of the YouTube channel face 15 years in prison?
Hello! I'm terribly sorry. I didn't notice your message and have been a little busy these last few days. Can you please clarify where exactly the missing citations are in the text? I noticed two sentences without sources related to YouTube channel information only. Is there anything else? RiiffTower (talk) 10:19, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@RiiffTower: Long enough, new enough. QPQ unnecessary and Earwig is clean. There is an {{orphan}} template on the page, and this can be resolved by linking the article at Kansk and Ussuriysk, but this isn't technically a DYK issue. What is, however, is that I'm not convinced ALT2 will fly on WP:DYKBLP grounds; I can suggest ALT3: ... that Vitaly Nalivkin(pictured) was awarded an anti-award for his questionable achievements in the field of law? or (something like) ALT4: ... that the actor who played the successful sketch show character Vitaly Nalivkin(pictured) was still living in poverty five years into playing him? Also, I've never seen that image tag before - @Nikkimaria:, could you confirm it's valid?--Launchballer00:39, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Strong objection: It's not a web browser (it makes up its own answers instead of showing you what you ask for). Calling it one is so misleading a s to be outright false. DS (talk) 04:08, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
given that all of the cited reliable sources call it a web browser (and i assume they weren't cherry-picked), not sure there's much we could do about that. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 15:29, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I am reviewing this nomination as part of an academic project under User:Assas CHEUNG.
I checked the article’s newness and it fits the DYK timeframe. The length is above the required 1,500 characters. The article is supported by reliable and independent sources, and each paragraph is cited. The tone reads neutral and I didn’t notice any plagiarism issues.
The hook is cited and reflects the information in the article. It is short enough and reasonably interesting. Since the hook doesn’t use an image, the picture fields do not apply. QPQ is not required here.
Overall, the nomination appears to meet the DYK criteria.
... that asylum seekers have been protesting for almost 400 consecutive days in the UNHCR humanitarian center in Agadez, Niger?
Source: "By late-2025, the protests continue for almost 400 consecutive days, making them one of the longest-running refugee-led demonstrations in North Africa."
ALT1: ... that refugees have been protesting for 400 consecutive days in the UNHCR humanitarian center in Agadez, Niger? Source: "By late-2025, the protests continue for almost 400 consecutive days, making them one of the longest-running refugee-led demonstrations in North Africa."
Reviewed:
Comment: If posted before 27 October, use "almost 400", if posted on 27 October, use "400", if posted after 27 October use "over 400".
Created by Afonso Dimas Martins (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Overall: Well written article on an important topic. My comments are all on the hook. First, it says "in Agadez" rather than "near Agadez" as the article says. Second, and more importantly, we don't have a source for the 400 consecutive days. I see one in article article 303 days (presumably written c.97 days ago). To be able to use the 400 number, we need a source confirming the protests are still going and have remained daily. Onceinawhile (talk) 14:16, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer, @Onceinawhile, apologies for the late reply - I think I missed a notification of this comment. Most sources mention "in Agadez" so I don't think that would be an issue. As for the 400 consecutive days question, there was no citation at the time mentioning explicitly 400 days, but since it was (and still is) an ongoing protest, it was simple math. Would this citation for 427 days[1] work?
@Launchballer thanks again for the tips. I've updated the article. I also agree with the snapshot issue, but I think simply saying the starting date is less impactful as saying something like "for at least 400 consecutive days" since that is supported by that source. But either would be fine by me. Afonso Dimas Martins (talk) 16:18, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source: "Mr Chen, who remains at large, is accused of being the mastermind behind a "sprawling cyber-fraud empire" operating under his multi-national company, the Prince Group, said the US Department of Justice (DOJ)."[2]
"An airline that has become the first Cambodian company to attempt to list itself on a U.S. stock exchange has substantial ties to a notorious business conglomerate dogged by allegations of criminality"[3]
"Chen, through the Hong Kong-registered Asia Corporation, acquired a 50 percent stake in Habanos, the worldwide distributor of Cuban cigars, and subsequently leveraged this control to inflate market prices."[4]
Overall: Expanded from redirect and nominated within window. QPQ done; only one required. Copyvio Detector clear after I removed some unnecessary quotations from CNN. Three issues: (1) The hook is interesting, but it's not precisely accurate. The DOJ press release describes a sprawling cyber-fraud empire operating under the Prince Group umbrella, which is not necessarily the same as saying the company is the cyber-fraud empire. It could mean that the company provides cover for the scams through its legitimate investments and subsidiaries. That doesn't mean the company isn't a participant in the alleged crimes, just pointing out that the hook doesn't precisely match the source. (2) By attributing the charges to the company and not Chen, we don't automatically implicate a WP:BLPCRIME issue, and AFAIK there is no similar policy about criminal allegations related to companies. But given that Chen was indicted alongside the company, we're verging into BLPCRIME territory with a hook that uses the description of the prosecution in an ongoing case to describe the subject. (3) The "history" section includes a lot of padding on Chen's bio that's unrelated to the Prince Group. If that were to be removed per WP:DUE, we're very close to the DYK character minimum. I also think there's a presentability issue with the quasi-bullet point format of the history section, and I'd like to see that recast in encyclopedic prose. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:22, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Dclemens1971: Thanks for the review. Point by point:
(1) I see what you're saying. How about this: ...The Prince Group owns an airline, controls Cuban cigar distribution, and according to the US Department of Justice, operates "a sprawling cyber-fraud empire"?
(2) I'm not seeing that this is a problem. The Prince Group as a company is explicitly indicted, and the hook does not mention Chen at all.
(3) Since this is a current news topic, the article is being heavily edited (by other users, not just me). Chen Zhi (businessman) was recently spun off into its own article, and I plan on moving all the biographical bits about Chen into that article.
Also, could you expand on the "Long enough" flag? Per DYKCheck, the article is at 2888 chars, comfortably above 1500 (even after the Chen content above is hived off). Asamboi (talk) 19:50, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Asamboi: (1-2) My concern is that we should not be putting unproven criminal charges on the homepage, even for a company and not a person. How is this for a more factual approach that doesn't involve repeating the prosecutorial perspective: ALT2: ... that the Prince Group owns an airline, controls Cuban cigar distribution—and was sanctioned by British and U.S. authorities as an alleged transnational criminal organization? (Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/10/26/cyber-scamming-prince-group-syndicate-singapore/, https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c70jz8e00g1o). This leaves out the question of guilt or innocence and focuses on facts (sanctions were imposed). (3) My character count once the extraneous info is removed is 1619, which could fall under 1500 easily with a copy edit by another editor. I would focus on fleshing the article out a bit and providing more buffer, as well as prosifying the list-like nature of the "History" section. (I should add that the word count alone won't hold up approval of the nomination, but if another editor trims the page further, a prep builder or queuer might need to bump it back to the unapproved list.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:29, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Dclemens1971: I have removed the extraneous content about Chen and the article is still sitting at 2534 chars. I'm happy to sub in your hook.
@Asamboi: The only interesting thing in ALT2 was "Cuban cigar distribution"; I've just removed the only thing with anything to do with cigars from the article as "a consortium led by Chen" has nothing to do with Prince Group. Also, it's a crying shame this wasn't nominated as a double with Chen, as that would have given a lot more flexibility (hooks beginning "that the owner of Prince Group"/"that a firm owned by Chen Zhi", for example), and I'd be seriously tempted to allow it to be added to this IAR. What do you think @Dclemens1971:?--Launchballer16:14, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Chen Zhi article did not exist at the time of this DYK nomination, and was seeded with content from this article. I think it would be entirely within the spirit of the rules of DYK to double up or even switch this nomination to it. Asamboi (talk) 21:01, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I just discovered that Dclemens1971 recently went on wikibreak, and WP:DYKSPLIT says "Articles split from new articles or articles with active nominations remain eligible". I'm going to say that yes this can be added as a double nom; what I need from you is a second QPQ and a double hook.--Launchballer13:01, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: Instead of a double hook, just replacing Prince Group with Chen Zhi would be the easiest approach. How's this?
Chen Zhi isn't eligible on its own. I'm IARing it, but it would need to be a double. Also, the "founded an airline" and "sprawling cyber-fraud empire" would qualify for trimming, and "Cuba's largest cigar producer Habanos S.A." isn't quite the same as "controls Cuban cigar distribution". The hook would be ALT3a: ... that the founder of Prince Group headed a consortium in 2021 that bought half of Cuba's largest cigar producer?. Do you plan on supplying a second QPQ?--Launchballer13:51, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Why would it not be eligible on its own? The WP:DYKSPLIT guideline you yourself quoted above states that Articles split from new articles or articles with active nominations remain eligible, no IAR necessary.
Also, with all due respect, your proposed hook is quite dull. What makes Chen such an interesting character is that he dabbles in real estate, airlines, cigars and forced labor scam camps, and the hook should reflect this. Asamboi (talk) 11:18, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, that's not how it works. While QPQs are per article, they are only officially "spent" once a nomination has concluded (QPQs can be used on only one nomination, not "one article"). So if a nomination is initially about one article, but switches to another article mid-nomination, then no new QPQ is necessary since the previous QPQ is not considered "spent". Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:06, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It also says "an article-for-article quid pro quo (QPQ) is required for each nominated article". Chen Zhi is a split and is clearly a second article, even if the first was withdrawn.--Launchballer01:32, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think this is basically splitting hairs; the spirit of the rule was that "a separate QPQ is needed for each article, but it does not matter what QPQ is used as long as it is not a spent QPQ". I really don't see the need to provide a new QPQ if in the end it's still one article that's being nominated, we just changed which one was being nominated. Technically, I see your point, but the thing here is that the other article has been withdrawn from consideration entirely. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:44, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: @TouchedWithFire: I read the Guardian article awhile ago, pretty interesting. I also took the liberty of adding the photo to the hook. The sources are all legit, but I can't say I disagree with the reader who tagged it as possibly incorporating AI generated text. I removed some of the obvious stuff, but it's still there. Most pressing, the last seven sentences are not currently cited. I've also proposed an ALT1 to make the hook less clunky. 1brianm7 (talk) 02:20, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TouchedWithFire: okay, everything is sourced and the text looks mostly fine, so I’m approving
I think this will have to be pulled. I have serious concerns regarding LLM usage with this article, and further, a read of the German version makes it clear that it is full of factual inaccuracies. It would be embarrassing to let this go to the main page in this state - it needs to be rewritten. MediaKyle (talk) 18:10, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've removed my approval until this can be resolved. Looking at the German version through Google translate, the only things that stick out are some bad phrasing, redundancy, and a few eh sentences ("reflecting his role as an educated professional within the Nazi academic milieu"). I don't see any factual inaccuracies. The prose has significant similarities with the German article, so I'm fairly certain parts of it were translated (by the creator or an LLM I don't know), but it is not attributed as such. Pinging creator @TouchedWithFire:1brianm7 (talk) 19:11, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I'm taking a step back. Yesterday I worked on the article for an hour, added sources, and rewrote a large part of it. I wanted to take part in DYK because it seemed interesting and important to me, I hope I'll succeed next time. TouchedWithFire (talk) 04:26, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TouchedWithFire: I’ve found appearing on DYK to be a fulfilling part of writing an article, I’m sorry that this experience hasn’t been the best for you. If you so desire, I’ll reject this nomination. However, I would recommend against doing so as this can still be accepted until it timeouts in about two months, and you might change your mind. Looking at the article’s content, I don’t see any factual inaccuracies or problem with its biographical content (pinging @MediaKyle: to ask what they saw), just some redundancy and problems with sources not being placed next to text they support. The article is by no means unable to be brought to standard and those problems are not impossible to solve. 1brianm7 (talk) 19:58, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much, I really appreciate your reply. If so, I will follow your advice and would ask that the door remain open. I will work on it soon and try to bring it up to par. TouchedWithFire (talk) 07:22, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note that the article states that Onnen is the likely murderer while the hooks portray him as the undisputed murderer. It's one or the other and this needs to be settled before this can run. Bremps...16:06, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you all for the feedback, I rewrote much of the article and I think I addressed all the issues. @1brianm7: If you could, I would appreciate it if you would give it another look. Thank you.
Pinging nominator and those who have previously raised concerns, feel free to ignore . @TouchedWithFire, MediaKyle, Gdeblois19, Chipmunkdavis, and Bremps: First I'd like to thank all the editors who raised concerns with the article and helped improve it, and TouchedWithFire for not getting disheartened and working on it. The article has undergone significant edits to ensure source text integrity and get it up to standard. I have just done a significant round of copyedits and formatting mostly, but I did not find any factually incorrect claims or issues with source-text integrity. I would like to get a second opinion to make sure I'm calling this right and no debilitating concerns remain before removing the banner. As for the hook issue raised, I think ALT1a: ... that historian Jürgen Matthäus used artificial intelligence to help identify Jakobus Onnen as the gunman in The Last Jew in Vinnitsa(pictured)? resolves it. Also, we should probably get a dummy edit to provide attribution to the .de article, but I have no clue on how to do that. 1brianm7 (talk) 19:25, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies. I only recently learned that it's necessary to write that the article was translated in the edit summary. In addition to the dummy edit by Bremps, I added a "Translated page" template to the talkpage. TouchedWithFire (talk) 15:03, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
When I promoted this, the only underlying issue was, I thought, the failed verification, and I was going to migrate the source somewhere else. However I have pulled it after some issues raised by MediaKyle, mainly the underlying LLM generation (that may still have some hallucinations) and the difference in perspective from the dewiki article which portrays it from a broader point of view (while this article asserts that the gunman is Onnen, the German article isn't that sure). The article needs more thorough checks of the sources before it can be approved. Pings: TouchedWithFire, Gdeblois19, Chipmunkdavis, Bremps, 1brianm7HurricaneZetaC03:23, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've cleaned up some hallucination and cloppyvio, but I can't access quite a few of the paywalled German sources. I also have an unusual concern about the hook, in that it is very similar to the Guardian article headline. It varies a bit but not enough that it doesn't give me pause, other opinions welcome. CMD (talk) 04:41, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@HurricaneZeta: In my last round of copyediting I tried to make clear that it was Matthaus' identification. I came to the conclusion that all of MediaKyle's concerns had been resolved (it looks like there was still a little weird stuff left, so I was slightly wrong, but not major and now corrected). 1brianm7 (talk) 04:25, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like the paywall is within the text, so regular paywall removals don't work. I think there isn't a way to remove it via Inspect Element, so someone with a subscription or trial needs to go in and access it (unless someone else finds a way to get access). HurricaneZetaC21:41, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TouchedWithFire, 1brianm7, HurricaneZeta, and Chipmunkdavis: Regarding the hook itself, has the identification been confirmed without doubt, or as the German Wikipedia suggests, it's not a closed case yet?
@Narutolovehinata5: It was my understanding that Matthaus has identified him as the shooter with 99% certainty. When I did my last round of copyedits on the article, I intended to make it clear that was his identification and not put it in wikivoice, and I wrote ALT1a to do that. Is it too close to wikivoice (I may have been a been bit careless in not definitely identifying this Nazi as this murderer). 1brianm7 (talk) 04:25, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: I'm not sure this is the type of thing with a lot of historical debate. It's identifying an unidentified person as this random guy, and this random guy was just a Nazi doing Nazi things who did a Nazi thing that was randomly immortalized as an example of Nazi evil. Matthaus is an expert (recently retired head of research at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum), and he has done extensive research into this photo, previously showing that it was not taken in Vinnitsa (the photos in the background match with buildings elsewhere, so a pretty confident assertion), and he did a bunch of research to get this conclusion. Just looking at a recently published NYT article, Christopher R. Browning and Katja Hoyer both praised the discovery, and I'm sure others have in various German sources. 1brianm7 (talk) 05:01, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(late to this, pinged) I have no access to the pay-walled sources, but for example what I see of the one regarding the war memorial supports what the article says. We might say 99% in the hook, and we might say that a historian iddentified with the help of AI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:40, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I read the German article, and it has more detail about the fact that it was a relative of Onnen who was suspicious, and provided the historian with family photos. AI image analysis was used to compare the images. The wording in German is "In 2025, a research team led by the historian Jürgen Matthäus identified him as the suspected shooter ...". In German it's "mutmaßlicher Schütze" (which Deepl gives first as "alleged shooter") which is a legal term for someone not (yet) pronounced guilty, and we might do the same, in article and hook, and there may be a different term in English. We should not be afraid of copyvio because it has to be precise. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:54, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I too no longer have access to the Rheiderland.de article, but I added additional sources pointing to the content citing it (the council consideration in Weener and the the eventual covering of the name in the memorial). I Also added mention of corroboration with his family's testimonies to 1brianm7's revision. I didn't remove the Rheiderland.de source, since it was put there for a reason, even if I can't verify it now... And regarding the hook, I have not seen any sources casting doubt on the identification, only those emphasizing its certainty (the NYT goes so far as to say that it's 99.9% certain). Regardless, don't 1brianm7's suggestion of ALT1a and revision of the text solve the issue? TouchedWithFire (talk) 14:57, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that notable scholars of media capture say that events in 2025 in the United States are "unbelievable" and "worse than anything we imagined"?
Source: Simon, Joel (2025-08-05). "Why so many experts think media capture is already a reality in America". Columbia Journalism Review. Retrieved 2025-10-21. Now experts warn that media capture has come to the United States. "We watch unbelievingly," Mungiu-Pippidi said. "In the old days we thought capture was mostly a problem in Africa and Latin America and then in Eastern Europe after the fall of the Berlin Wall," noted Anya Schiffrin, another scholar of media capture and the director of the Technology, Media, and Communications specialization at Columbia University. "What's happened in the last six months in the US is worse than anything we imagined.".
Comment: The word "notable" is used as Mungiu-Pippidi is the scholar whose definition of media capture is most widely used, and Schiffrin is the scholar who has written or edited the most publications on the subject.
Created by Onceinawhile (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 84 past nominations.
Not reviewing it, but there is a problem I have with the article: in the scope of the article you mention "platform capture" (social media) but you don't speak about social media apart from the very first sentence and from a cursory look you don't seem to cite any source that speaks about social media. Is there a reason for this? Szmenderowiecki (talk) 00:56, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also, the entire source is available online on the publisher's site.[4] While social media is mentioned in other parts of the book, the cited page number for the lead and the content don't really add up. I suspect that the cited sources are mixed up a bit and the editor needs to go back and take a look. Viriditas (talk) 23:57, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Various kinds of systemic biases in media is important topic, but not sure of above hook being suitable. Present hook sounds to me bit like recentism, sensational and vague. Not sure, even good number of audience is aware of concept of Media capture, hence whether hooks explaining concept itself will be more interesting and easy to understand. Alts something like on following lines?
"... that, Media capture, is a form in which mass media and social media platforms are controlled by governments, corporations, or powerful individuals to serve their own interests instead of the public interest?"
"... that, media capture describes how vested interests can dominate or co-opt nominally independent media institutions through ownership, regulation, or financing, whilst maintaining the illusion of press freedom?"
"... that, media capture is distinguished from censorship by its indirect mechanisms—such as ownership concentration, clientelism, and state advertising—used to manipulate editorial independence?"
"... that, according to Marius Dragomir, media capture involves the takeover of four key levers of influence: media regulation, state-owned outlets, government financing, and private ownership?"
As far as I can tell, the user forgot to watchlist this page and needs to be contacted on talk. I will do so. Per my comment above, I would not pass this until the concerns have been addressed. It is not ready. Viriditas (talk) 10:40, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Onceinawhile: You have the bibliography sorted chronologically. I've never seen that before, although I understand some disparate fields have different ways of doing this. Did you do this on purpose? Viriditas (talk) 20:43, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Still doesn't address the scope issue as the lead sentence still reads Media capture is a form of systemic corruption in which mass media and social media platforms. This may be a legitimate topic to cover but the article doesn't do it. If you do a section about social media acquisitions being cited as platform capture then fine. Szmenderowiecki (talk · contribs) 10:52, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Onceinawhile: You write: "Media capture is a form of systemic corruption in which mass media is controlled by governments, corporations, or powerful individuals to serve their own interests instead of the public interest, undermining media independence and media pluralism." This seems like an odd definition. Have you returned to the sources to double check? The reason this raises a red flag for me is because I am somewhat familiar with the problem of media capture. Media has been "controlled" by these entities since time immemorial, so that loads the definition in a way that makes it less meaningful. Obviously, the important part here is not necessarily ownership per se (although deregulation which led to concentration of media ownership in fewer hands is part of the problem), but the failure to serve the public interest. For example, we know in the U.S. that deregulation of the media environment led to concentration of ownership in fewer hands, mostly billionaries. This led to the decline of local news rooms and a focus on national issues, which in turn led to widespread public apathy at local levels to the point where people in small towns no longer knew what was happening in their areas. This is currently a major issue in Alaska, where the defunding of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting has led to small towns losing their only source of community news, which also serves multiple roles such as an ad hoc civil defense, etc. So in many ways, media capture is a highly complex problem that has major consequences far beyond ownership. Please check the sources to make sure your definition is accurate. Also, take a look at what happened in Hungary in the last 25 years, which is a case study for modern media capture and is endlessly fascinating. The media was given a choice to voluntarily let themselves be captured by the government, but in a way that is somewhat opaque and not readily apparent to outsiders. This is similar to what happened in U.S. and British media during and after WWII, but at a much lower level of capture. U.S. media, particularly entertainment, was highly censored by corporate and government interests working together during this time, but was implemented voluntarily, much as Hungary does today. Previous to this, in the 19th century, media capture in the U.S. was often the result of wealthy individuals working on behalf of a specific industry. The capture of West Coast media by the sugar industry from the late 19th to early 20th century is well known, for example. But more importantly, these interests intersect with others in often new ways. The interests of the sugar industry mirrored the interests of the U.S. government, its economic interests, and the military. The media becomes a major player in terms of promoting propaganda to advance the agendas of all of these special interests. It is in the stories that they tell, in their very narrative, that we can see hints of media capture, but in many cases most people can't tell. It is when that propaganda diverges from the interests of the public that we begin to see the capture at work. I am curently working on an article about MLK that required me to review newspaper articles about him from 1966-1968. It was only then that I learned about how the U.S. government waged a campaign against MLK in the pages of the news when MLK turned against the Vietnam War effort. This is one way the media capture became evident. Viriditas (talk) 21:37, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Onceinawhile: You write: "The most widely held definition of the term was published by Alina Mungiu-Pippidi in 2008: "either directly by governments or by vested interests networked with politics". That's not what she writes. She says: "By media capture I mean a situation in which the media has not succeeded in becoming autonomous to manifest a will of its own and to exercise its main function, notably of informing people, but has persisted in an intermediate state, whereas various groups, not just the government, use it for other purposes." This is very interesting because it dovetails exactly with the red flag I noted up above. Viriditas (talk) 22:10, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Onceinawhile: Where did you find a copy of Dragomir 2020? That link doesn't work for me. Does it work for you? Is there a place to download it? BTW, there is an updated sister/companion pub to it. It is found here. It further clarifies the definition:
Independence is a precondition for quality journalism, allowing for the production of verified information and informed analysis in the public interest. The professional standards of journalism mark out this kind of communications within the wider content mix and rely on space for self-regulation as well as independent regulatory institutions. Such independence is of increasing importance in the face of the contamination of the online public sphere with mis- and disinformation, hate speech, and conspiracy theories. But this is also happening in parallel with a financial crisis for news outlets. That financial crisis in turn endangers editorial independence and professional standards. It deprives newsrooms of the resources needed to produce quality reporting and it makes them more vulnerable to pressures to serve political agendas or commercial prerogatives over public interest. When these trends are exploited by political and economic actors to erode journalistic autonomy, it is referred to as 'media capture'".
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The erosion of media freedoms and challenges to financial sustainability in the news industry makes newsrooms in many countries more vulnerable to pressures both from external actors and from outlet owners and executives, placing professional standards at risk. In a captured media environment, news media are ostensibly free but compromised in terms of independence. 'This form of media control is achieved through a series of systematic and premeditated steps taken by governments and powerful interest groups', explains one recent UNESCO report [Dragomir 2020]. 'Their aim is to take over four levers of power: the regulatory mechanisms governing the media; state-administered media operations; public funds that finance journalism; and the ownership of privately held news outlets'.
This definition is much better than what you have and nails all the major points I've raised. FWIW, I wrote a similar article about a parallel problem known as autocratic legalism. In the modern, post-9/11 era, autocratic legalism is used to capture the media, although this is beyond the scope of this article at the moment as it would be somewhat of a chore to flesh this out without fixing this article first and getting it past this initial article development stage. My point is that media capture is a subset of the autocratic legalism process in terms of authoritarianism and autocracy, and much more can be said about how this works in the future. Kim Lane Scheppele informally places it in the context of "step seven" on the ten-step path to autocracy. In other words, media capture is very much an incremental process of a state becoming an autocracy, so there's a larger aspect to the overall problem. Finally, I would oppose a hook emphasizing this as a recent problem in the U.S. The Trump admin and the GOP have escalated a process that has been underway since Reagan. There are books in the literature going back to the mid-1970s about this problem and I own them. I first became interested in this topic in the 1980s. What is so unique about the media capture we are seeing now, is that much of it is done voluntarily and willingly under the Trump admin, which is the same process that occurred in Hungary (and probably Venezuela, although it may have been more heavy-handed there). There are indicators in the literature that the Trump admin promoted the Hungarian style of media capture on purpose, using threats and intimidation to force the media landscape to bend to its will. This is the most interesting part, that people in leadership positions voluntarily chose to set aside journalistic standards and the basic tenets of the 1A to appease a dictator. Viriditas (talk) 00:55, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: Per the above, I did a random spot check and looked at the literature and compared it to this article. I think the editor means well, but his article isn't ready for prime time. I suggest a major rewrite and revision. Perhaps they can try again bringing it to GAN. Just my opinion based on what I read. Perhaps others are willing to tick this article as GTG, but I am not. Viriditas (talk) 20:43, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My impression is that the editor wrote a rough draft and published it. It needs to be rewritten for source-text parity. I would reject it at this time as a simple, random verification did not pan out, IMO. This is the kind of article that I would refer to as a stub in progress, but for whatever reason looks like it is fully formed. It is not. Viriditas (talk) 23:10, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Viriditas: DYK is not about fully formed articles. Your comments here would have been better placed for the talk page, and you are welcome (and encouraged) to edit the article directly yourself. If DYK was about creating WP:GA articles, we would have a lot less of them.
I am glad you are passionate about this topic. Please don’t let me get in the way. I hope you are pleased that I did the work to start an article on what we both consider an important topic. Your comments here are well meaning but undermining the DYK process has diminished my interest in finding the time to work with you on this. Onceinawhile (talk) 00:29, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the lesson. I did not speak to "fully formed articles". What I spoke to was the appearance that this article was fully formed, when it's not. More to the point, I was unable to confirm most of the material doing a random spot check. This reads like a first draft that I keep in my sandbox before I am ready to go to DYK. You certainly don't have to work with me, but the sources and the content need to add up. Let's use the very first opening sentence as an example. The source was published online by the author, so it's odd you don't link to it.[5] Not usually a big deal, but visiting the book and turning to pp. 101-107 to verify doesn't turn up anything. That's the very first cited source and it's your opening definition. Would you say that's a problem? Viriditas (talk) 00:40, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Viriditas: that source is supporting just the final clause "undermining media independence and media pluralism." p.101 discusses media independence in the context of media capture. p.105 discusses media pluralism in the context of media capture. I didn’t feel the need to add a source to the prior clause, because it is simply a summary of the Description section in the body of the article.
If you write another provocative comment like your “first draft that I keep in my sandbox”, you should expect not to receive responses from me again.
Apologies, I don’t see how that cited source supports the statement at all, and this was an example of the larger problem with the rest of the article that I pointed to up above. I just tried to verify the material cited by the second citation and could not. I addressed the problem with citation number 3 up above. Citation 4, a quote by Stiglitz, checks out, but it doesn’t make any sense why you are using it here. He’s introducing the different types of media capture (ownership, financial incentives, censorship, and cognitive capture) which is the takeaway, not the material that you quoted. This article isn’t ready for DYK, and should be draftified in your sandbox where you can work on it. I think we’ve both said our peace at this point. Perhaps someone else will chime in and try to verify the material that I could not. Viriditas (talk) 09:32, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You said above Where did you find a copy of Dragomir 2020? That link doesn't work for me. Have you got it working now?
Dragomir 2020 was down in North America when I originally wrote that due to a Cloudflare outage giving a HTTP 520 error. It is now back up and I still can't verify the material. Spelling and grammar on mobile are difficult. I will leave it as "peace" because it's funny. Viriditas (talk) 19:49, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I'm sad that I didn't get a good image when she played near me in summer. We could add that she was the youngest winner at the time, but I think 17 is fairly young enough. Other hook ideas welcome.
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 2158 past nominations.
Overall: The hook fact (that the win at that one competition caused her international star to rise) is not explicitly stated in any source. See e.g. this, which conveys that her victory caused her to receive a recording offer. She seems to have won numerous international competitions beforehand? I think we need another hook, unless I've missed something.
I am a little concerned, while we're here, about the non-independent sourcing. Most of the cited sources are either organisations she has been affiliated with, or which had reasons to promote her. We may have a WP:N fail here; let me know what you think, before I put it up for AFD. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:19, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:19, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This person played at Carnegie Hall and the Rheingau Musik Festival, - that's not promotional speak but hard facts saying she is top. - I heard her and was impressed and told Dr. Blofeld who wrote the article, but there was no review - the festival ran 154 events last year, and the papers can't cover them all - and if there was one it would be paywalled. Just one example. What can we do? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:21, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I added a review from Gramophone. ("If you already have most of the items in other recordings I urge you to listen to Montesinos – you may feel you are hearing them for the first time.") --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:52, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I agree with AirshipJungleman29. In general the article relies too heavily on non-independent sources; many of which were likely written by Montesinos or her press agent or her employer. These are all published by people or parties who have a financial motive (ie selling tickets and recordings). I would say in its current state the article should be tagged for sourcing problems and the need for third party coverage. I don't think we can or should run this because the article currently fails WP:DYKCITE. Until those sources (ie content cited to a press release, theatre bio, and record label) are swapped out with independent secondary materials (ie independent newspapers, magazines, etc. with by lined authors) we shouldn't run this. Gerda that means physically removing most of the materials you've used. We've talked about this before. You really need to quit submitting articles built primarily from artist bios of this type. They aren't independent. It's ok to use them in a limited way per WP:ABOUTSELF, but they shouldn't make up the majority of materials used, and they shouldn't make up the bulk of citations per WP:BESTSOURCES and WP:DUE. I note that in doing a WP:BEFORE type search I found lots of independent media coverage (yes much of it is paywalled, but not all of it) so there really isn't a need to use any of these theatre bios. The coverage is there in German, Spanish, and English media sources using google news. Best.4meter4 (talk)
@Gerda Arendt: Apologies for not catching that. It would be good to critically look at source balance on any articles you nominate. The work of others is not necessarily DYK ready, and if it isn't ready that makes for work here at review. An article built like this isn't going to pass scrutiny and will require heavy editing. If you are willing to pitch in and fix that is one thing, but if time isn't on your side I wouldn't nominate articles in this state. Best.4meter4 (talk) 15:34, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
When I see an article 7 days after creation, about a subject I like to see mentioned, close to midnight, too tired for scrutiny, I nominate whatever condition, hoping it will be improved in the process. There's nothing to loose. It can still be improved, and I'm willing to help but don't see time until Saturday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:19, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am sorry to have no time right now, 2 recent deaths articles and three reviews waiting, + prepare Christmas. My recommendation is to place the questioned refs under External links, and believe that there will still be enough good references to support the content. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:39, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! - I found the first one also, but it's an inadequate translation (First sentence: "The guitar seems insufficient in its playing, it breaks down complex works ..."???), - I wish we had someone able to read the original. The second is fine, but I see nothing much in that review, written in "purple language" for a no-name website, to add to what the review from the certainly notable Gramophone offers. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:28, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Back home, I combined refs, made one external, dropped one that had nothing new, and trimmed the prose. Please check again. There is more information (husband, duo) in the ref that's now #1. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:24, 5 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that “...Your mind is caged, let it free. My body is not, let it be … My choice: to love a man, or a woman, or both. Remember, you are my choice. I’m not your privilege. ..." is from 2015 Film My Choice?
ALT2: ... that “2015 film My Choice features music by French composer Mathias Duplessy, using percussion instruments for acoustics along with Mongolian Tuvan throat singing technique?
ALT3:... that The rise of neoliberal feminism, as seen in film My Choice, stems from complex gender constructions across states, markets, and civil societies encompassing multiple ideological intersections?
Source: Secondary: Chakraborty, Gauri D. (24 March 2023). "6. New Feminist Visibilities and Sisterhood: Re-interpreting Marriage Desire and Self-Fulfillment in mainstream Hindi Cinema" (PDF). In Chakraborty Paunksnis, Runa; Paunksnis, Šarūnas (eds.). Gender, Cinema, Streaming Platforms: Shifting Frames in Neoliberal India. Germany: Springer International Publishing. pp. 154, 155. doi:10.1007/978-3-031-16700-3_6. ISBN 978-3-031-16700-3
ALT4: ... that Lyrics of 2015 film My Choice were written by Kersi Khambatta?
Comment: Now the article has been assessed as B class.( dif of the article talk page history) Just for transparency and record: This is re-nomination (link to previous nomination page) after previous draftfication and reentry in the article namespace with due process of addressing issues raised during draftification with the help of WP:Teahouse feedback and copy edit supported by substantially by two copy editors and other multiple experienced copy editors too looked into the article, edited by 19 users by now (Link to Xtools) and re-entry by WP:AFC process. It has been confirmed at DYK talk page that the article can be re-nominated after reentry in the article namespace with due WP:AFC process.
Created by Bookku (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.
Also (from previous own comment):" To those having music related curiosity Alt2 might sound relatively more interesting, but this DYK's purpose is to focus on the film and not the music. I hope reviewers will take note of this aspect while taking the call."
Though for Alt5 we will need to consider two different different sentences from secondary source or form a sentence from primary source per MOS:FILMPLOT. As such WP:CALC says:
".. Routine calculations do not count as original research, provided there is consensus among editors that the results of the calculations are correct, and a meaningful reflection of the sources. Basic arithmetic, such as adding numbers, converting units, or calculating a person's age, is almost always permissible. .."
Thanks @ User:Launchballer, as a proposer, IMHO, this article fulfills all DYK criteria.
Women's rights, slogan My body, my choice and freedom of choice continue to be ongoing international concern, being just recently discussed at G20 and also at European parliament.
The lead actress of the film Deepika Padukone was recently right back into news about controversy - audiences comparing one of her recent advert vis a vis this film of hers. (But not yet covered in the article, mostly will try to cover in the article Deepika Padukone)
Metropolitan90 themselves suggested a hook that's why some other reviewer needs to pitch in, review DYK and decide which hook they find more interesting. Bookku (talk) 02:31, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Article alternates between plagiarism and insufficient referencing. For example, much of the "Summary" section is WP:CLOP of this source, and what isn't closely paraphrased is not verified, e.g. "As the music intensifies, their expressions and movements become more confident, sensual, and expressive." These are problems that go far beyond DYK, and violate basic Wikipedia policy.
As for the hooks, ALTs 0, 1, and 4 are dull as ditchwater. ALT3, like the corresponding part of the article, directly plagiarises the source. ALT2 is too verbose, and not very interesting either. That leaves ALT5, which is by far superior to any other; still, the article needs to be improved greatly. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:35, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@User talk:AirshipJungleman29 Thanks for your frank feedback, and I regret some of the things are not to your expectation but I have some points to share with you.
1) Summary section uses This is primary source, as WP MOS:FILMPLOT allows primary source itself for summary writing to the some extant as shown below. " .. Since films are primary sources for their articles, basic descriptions of their plots do not need references to an outside source.., I suppose we need not have any difference of opinion on this. I had reduced the speed of YouTube while writing and confirming source content for the article. Hence I find it difficult that summary content written as per MOS:FILMPLOT from primary source can be called not-referenced?
2) I have not copy-pasted any content directly, written only in my own words and your goodselves only had complained at my talk page about deficiencies in language and grammar. So I invited more copy editors help and got it copy edited. Idk, if you are having a feeling that copy edited content is reaching back similar to the sourced content. May be in that case I can request the same copy editors and few more to help in that respect.
3) Your goodselves only stated above that content in the section is alternating with other content (which you presume not sourced and I say sourced per policy from original source). As long as alternating content is encyclopedic, relevant, written in own words plus copy edited further by another editors and referenced IMHO that should be within fair use, still since you have concerns then as said I shall invite more copy editors to help me sort this out.
@User:Metropolitan90 do you have any specific inputs to share with in respect to user AirshipJungleman29's concerns, since you have already visited the sourced text your inputs may help discussion and further article improvement. Bookku (talk) 07:12, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Okay,Once again I have gone through, what AirshipJungleman29 is trying to say. I shall prefer to discuss my understanding at Metropolitan90's user talk page keeping AirshipJungleman29 in the loop and find the resolution. Bookku (talk) 10:40, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Your comments are confusing and not fully intelligible. Hopefully I have interpreted them properly:
With regard to MOS:FILMPLOT, please pay attention to the second paragraph, specifically what primary sources may be used for.
Please consult WP:CLOP. That is considered plagiarism and a copyright violation. As above, please compare the Summary section to the source.
Fair use is irrelevant. There is no need for others to copy-edit, there is only a need for you Bookkuto fix your copyright violations. That is a basic requirement of Wikipedia editing; editors who cannot write without plagiarising are routinely blocked. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:39, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I do not get involved in film genre regularly, there may be difference in understanding on my part. But I always write in my own words that's why English grammar issues keep coming up, and I resolve English grammar issues with help of helpful copy editors. Besides where I feel doubtful a try to approach respective forums for example in case of image added to this article itself by another user I approached here. And I am working on another draft for that I approached here.
I wish to address and resolve issues raised by you head on, and no arguments about it. (Besides as said above it's my first time to handle film genre. Knowing that I had and I have approached all relevant project talk pages for inputs and help.)
What I am proposing to is to revisit and improve summary section paragraph by paragraph, preferably discussing improvements at User:Metropolitan90's talk page - since they have read one of the source and aware of the source and suggested alt5, of course keeping you in the loop (as I kept you informed previously for the same article). In present case it is just around two minutes film, it would be a challenging task to differentiate our fresh summary but we will do that. I will try to write it again afresh besides I will try to request other helpful users to write their summaries without reading the article and then improve. The same things we can discuss para wise at Metropolitan90's user talk page if Metropolitan90 is okay with the same. Thanks for helpful guidance. Bookku (talk) 15:07, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My suggestion would be to rewrite the Summary section to make it much shorter than it is now. Since most of Airship's objections pertain to plagiarism/paraphrasing in that section, that could help ease his concerns. This is a very short film and thus a short summary is all that should be needed. --Metropolitan90(talk)09:15, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that a young Donald Trump developed a fear of germs after his mother had an emergency hysterectomy? Source: Kranish & Fisher 2017, p. 37.
ALT2: ... that a young Donald Trump was sent to New York Military Academy after his father found that he had been sneaking off to Manhattan to purchase smoke bombs and knives? Source: Craig & Buettner 2024, p. 63.
Article looks good to me. Long enough and all that. Earwig's is clear. Didn't appear to have any neutrality issues although I'm not a politics guy so I'll just rely on the judgement of the good article reviewers. I'll just review ALT0 for now because I don't have access ot the books. ALT0 matches the source and article. I think the biggest issue is that the hook doesn't mention that it's adjusted for inflation, so maybe you could add something saying that it is? I don't really have an opinion because I guess people would look at it with today's value of the dollar. I'm not sure. ―Panamitsu(talk)02:54, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Mary had various medical problems, including a hemorrhage after Roberts birth that required an emergency hysterectomy. From his mother, Donald inherited a wariness about catching germs that led to years as an adult when he avoided shaking hands."
"They found a magic store that sold smoke bombs and, enamored with the musical street fighting in West Side Story, eventually graduated to buying knives. Toward the end of seventh grade, their fathers found out. Both boys were in trouble. But Fred had reached his limit with Donald. He sent him to a boarding school, a military academy north of the city."
"McMahon and Gedgard introduced their new friend to golf. When the days warmed, they would skip class and head off to a nearby public course."
ALT1 matches the source. ALT2 source mostly does but does not explicitly say which academy it was, but it's cited in the article so I'll assume that it's fine. ALT3 matches and so does ALT4. All hooks match the article. ―Panamitsu(talk)20:23, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that in the Romanian Carpathians, young women once flirted with the hills – playing the fifăfluier and answering its echo with yodel-like hăulit singing?
ALT1: ... that women the Romanian Carpathians traditionally play the one-note fifăfluier, around which their voice "embroiders" a rudimentary melody using a yodel-like hăulit singing?
ALT2: ... that the single tone of the fifă, an archaic fluier from the foothills of the Carpathians , combines with yodel-like hăulit singing to create a zigzag contour of a single melodic line?
ALT3: ... that when women in the Oltenia Carpathians play the fifă, their voice essentially becomes an extension of the instrument, compensating for its minimal resources with yodel-like hăulit?
ALT4: ... that the Pygmy whistle hindewhu is played almost exactly like the archaic Romanian fluierfifă — and that Herbie Hancock recreated its sound using empty beer bottles in his 1973 version of "Watermelon Man"?
Source: Fifă [dudina, suieras]. End-blown notched flute of Romania. It is made from a hollow hemlock or lovage stalk, a handbreadth long, stopped with a node at the lower end... The fifa can produce only one note, and is blown mostly by women. Its intermittent note is a sound axis around which the performer’s voice ‘embroiders’ a rudimentary melody using a yodel-like vocal technique (hăulit)...
Libin, Laurence, ed. (2014). The Grove Dictionary of Musical Instruments. Vol. 2 (2 ed.). New York: Oxford University Press, p. 278
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Created by Iurii.s (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
First of all, allow me to congratulate our new colleague Iurii.s for what emerges as a remarkably well written, and thoroughly engaging, series about Romanian-areal folk music. This is a new, long, thorough, well researched and plagiarism-free article; the only drawback is perhaps that the lead does not summarize the article content, but that is obviously not a DYK requirement. User is, as mentioned, new, and QPQ is not required. That said: I should point out that the hook is not verified by the source, nor is it apparently mentioned in the article. Unless there is some arcane terminology that eludes me (and would elude most readers), "to flirt" would indicate that women actually personify the hills and act out as if they were singing to romantic partners. Is there any other way to phrase this? Dahn (talk) 07:38, 7 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the positive feedback and the kind words! I really appreciate it. And you're right, the hook needs improvement. I've added ALT1 version. -Iurii.s (talk) 10:36, 7 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The ALT is certainly an improvement, but the word "embroiders" would need to also appear in the article. What is more: the cited source is only cited once in the article, and not for the fact in the hook (!). Please note that the hook needs to be based on something actually found in the article -- you can easily solve this by adding it to the article, with the corresponding citation. Once that is fixed, please note: the ALT is a bit on the wordy side, and loses focus. I will suggest a punchier wording once you will have addressed the query above. Dahn (talk) 22:10, 7 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Iurii.s: I am not sure if the added ALTs are admitting that the original hook is unusable. On the other hand, I see additional potential issues with them. For instance, you render "extension of the instrument" as a quote, but is not a visible quote in the article -- it is not clear if you're attributing it to the source or if you're paraphrasing the source. If the former, the quote would need be, quote marks and all, in the article as well; if the latter, you do not need quote marks here. The same goes for the "zigzag" ALT. I also have to wonder about the hindewhu paragraph and the ALT based on it: does the source you used ever mention fifăs, by name or by description? Because the phrasing seems to suggest that some original research went into that, as per WP:SYNTH. Dahn (talk) 13:35, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed quote marks from ALT2-3, you have your point. As for ALT4, the source (Херцеа 1988) in the article mentions morphological kinship of the fifa with other simple single-note stopped tubes. Hindewhu falls into that category, though not listed implicitly. So I believe no original research from my side. From my point of view ALT2-4 are OK. -Iurii.s (talk) 12:38, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have accessed Feld's article and nowhere is fifă even mentioned. Please read our WP:SYNTH policy. Further, even if it were mentioned, the entire detail about Hanock seems to be squeezed in the article for the purpose of creating a hook -- such detail on an African instrument for which we have an article has no business featuring in the one you created. This article cannot be passed as is. Dahn (talk) 11:19, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was referring to another article: Civallero (2012) - "Flautas de Pan". It has both fifa and hindewhu. The technique - fusion of vocal and instrumental art - is quite rare, and is surprisingly similar for fifa and hindewhu. It seams to me that modern use of the technique has value for the article. Anyway, only one hook out of 3 (ALT 2-3-4) proposed uses Hancock's performance. -Iurii.s (talk) 08:00, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That still leaves all the paragraph that follows the citation as a sample of SYNTH, and as irrelevant at best, while making the hook based on it unusable. Dahn (talk) 04:11, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Compliant, new enough (promoted to GA 2 days ago), QPQ satisfied, Earwig 35.9% similarity that's likely because of properly attributed quote. Well-sourced and proper inline citation in "Rum Collection" section. Hook is really interesting as I wouldn't expect some random bar to have 1,300 collections.HwyNerdMike (t | c) 17:18, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @BanjoZebra, HwyNerd Mike, HurricaneZeta, Narutolovehinata5, and Theleekycauldron: I'm reopening this per Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Smuggler's Cove (bar) (nom). The claim that it has the most in the US is not well-enough sourced for us to state that in WikiVoice on the main page. Also, it was raised that the actual number of rums (1,300) is attributed only to the owner and not as an established fact. The hook was changed in prep to ... that Smuggler's Cove claimed in 2025 to offer more than 1,300 varieties of rum? but that currently doens't match what the article says and is also in violation of MOS:CLAIM. It seems like the article needs to be updated to attribute the 1,300 figure or provide more concrete sourcing on it, and a new hook found which then reflects this. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 12:23, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The section on "ufology" has no *direct* bearing on the article content, is clearly biased against the content, and I would not pass this without it being removed. I also do not see anything that rises the to the hook claim that this is "generally attributed" to plate defects. The ref on the section that does mention this states it as "were often", and I would hesitate to say "often" is a synonym for "generally" and the context suggests the "were" is in the sense of "in the past" as opposed to "is". The section at the end, which purports to report on these concerns, doesn't mention plate defects at all. The SciAm article does offer a very good summary of the various concerns, and one of the statements fits the bill, that of Nigel Hambly, but there are many other interesting ones as well. So I'm uncomfortable which this claim. Further, for an article about UFO claims, which would be sure to generate oodles of clicks, it seems odd that the hook fails to mention this at all. If the goal of this article is to inform people that this work is controversial, then it only serves that purpose if people actually read it, and this hook would seem to do the opposite. Instead:
"for an article about UFO claims..." / "The section on "ufology" has no *direct* bearing on the article" -- I'm having difficulty reconciling these two statements. "If the goal of this article is to inform people that this work is controversial" It is not. The goal of the article is to chronicle what reliable sources say about a notable topic. In the spirit of NPOV, our articles should not be evangelically motivated. Chetsford (talk) 18:24, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The goal of the article is to chronicle what reliable sources say about a notable topic - precisely, and this section says nothing whatsoever about this paper. "our articles should not be evangelically motivated" - I couldn't agree more, which is why this section should be removed, as it appears to be included simply to bias the reader without any RS actually making these statements. Maury Markowitz (talk) 18:43, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Background sections to explain unusual terminology later introduced are extremely rote on articles, and are a proper application of WP:MTAU and WP:PLA. Let me think about this for a period of time, however. "as it appears to be included simply to bias the reader without any RS actually making these statements" I completely reject this indictment in both form and fact. Chetsford (talk) 18:56, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
explain unusual terminology later introduced - the terminology is not used anywhere else in the article. Argument fails. You can reject my opinion and argue with me ad nauseam about this "indictment", or we can move forward with the nom. Which will it be? Maury Markowitz (talk) 12:11, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"the terminology is not used anywhere else in the article" The terms "UAP" and "UFO" are used at least 11 times outside that section. "Argument fails. You can reject my opinion and argue with me ad nauseam about this "indictment", or we can move forward with the nom. Which will it be?" As I said in my previous comment,[6] I'd like some time to properly consider your feedback. Thanks, again, for your patience. Chetsford (talk) 14:44, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose this blurb. This is in the source clearly the background of the study, where the potential for these to be mere defects in the study that the Wikipedia article is about has been investigated and found to be impossible or implausible hence the paper in the peer-reviewed major scientific journal(s). This is a violation of WP:NPOV. If Wikipedia policies are robust and matter, it won't be a DYK or only after the text has been written in a less biased, misleading way. It's not per se false, but the wikilink is wrong as it suggests that this is what the study found when the source doesn't support that at all and the sources say the opposite. --Prototyperspective (talk) 16:59, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I concur with Launchballer. We would need a source that claimed these two papers are the "basis" for the idea supposed "UFOs" are attracted to nuclear weapons, which is a counter-factual statement since that idea has been circulating for many decades predating either paper. Chetsford (talk) 19:54, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The basis of your statement is the term "basis", which is interesting given your original hook contains the term "often". But fair enough:
This is a direct quote from the "Discussion" section of the paper. @Launchballer:, unless I'm mistaken, we don't need independent V for a statement that is directly quoted from the work itself, as that work can be read by anyone. Maury Markowitz (talk) 15:57, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think this meets criterion 7 of the DYK criteria. Also, the way it's written affirms the existence of UAPs as a factual, versus imaginative, phenomenon. Finally, we should not introduce WP:JARGON on the main page and would, at minimum, need to refer to them as UFOs. Chetsford (talk) 03:19, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It does not bear weight, AirshipJungleman29. The objector's statement "This is a violation of NPOV." is circumscribed by WP:PSCI by which NPOV does not apply to fringe views in the way they've described. The consensus view to explain the transients is there were defects in the glass plates in 1955. The fringe view to explain the transients is that a fleet of Martian spaceships was orbiting the Earth in 1955. We are under no obligation to equitably treat these two theories. Chetsford (talk) 20:06, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source: Reference re Meaning of the Word "Persons" in s. 24 of the BNA Act, 1928 CanLII 55, [1928] SCR 276; ...a unanimous Court held that women were not "qualified persons" for the purpose of being appointed to the Senate of Canada. The Court maintained that it was for the legislature to make such a change (Snell & Vaughan 1985, p. 141.).
ALT1: ... that the Anglin Court was created because the alternative Chief Justice candidates did not want the job, were too old, or drunk? Source: Eugène Lafleur declined the appointment (Snell & Vaughan 1985, p. 123); John Idington, whose declining mental capacity led to his eventual removal in 1927 (Snell & Vaughan 1985, p. 122.) "Idington had been described by the prime minister as 'senile.'" (Snell & Vaughan 1985, p. 126.); Lyman Duff: "Second, and probably more important, Duff had a drinking problem, and perhaps had even become an alcoholic. All of the specific evidence of his heavy drinking comes from the early 1920s, and it may be that his resort to alcohol was a by-product of his nervous exhaustion at the end of the war." (Snell & Vaughan 1985, p. 122.)
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Comment: The Persons Case is likely the most notable decision of the early Supreme Court of Canada, and the SCC's decision was overturned by Lord Sankey at the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council.
Created by Caddyshack01 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Article is in good condition without evidenceo f copyvio - good work on writing on a relatively poorly covered field (Canadian judicial history) on here. The ALT0 hook seems to check out from the quoted source. No QPQ needed, so all is good to go. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 04:28, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Rachel Walker Revere bribed a British officer to secure a pass for her family to safely escape British-occupied Boston after her husband's "midnight ride"?
Source: "The next letters between Paul and Rachel discuss arrangements for getting the family out of besieged Boston. The British only allowed for people to leave with a pass, and passes were hard to come by....in her letter to Paul dated May 2, 1775, Rachel declares that "capt Irvin says he has not received any letter and I send by this 2 bottles beer and 1 wine for his servant."...clearly, the supply of food became of paramount concern within the city, which allowed Rachel to wield it as a bribe to obtain passes." Jenny Hale Pulsipher. "Rachel Walker Revere: A Revolutionary Woman." The Revere House Gazette, Winter 1997, pg. 6. There are also references to the event in Paul Revere and the World He Lived In by Esther Forbes, and A True Republican by Jayne Triber.
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Created by Isoxys (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Article is in good shape and eligible. No evidence of copyvio, and the hook is interesting enough (I might link midnight ride though). The source quote seems to confirm the hook, but I'd need to know what this source actually is. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 04:24, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Isoxys, the article says she may have bribed an officer, and source indicates her letter suggests that she may have bribed Captain Irvin for a pass, which is not as declarative as the hook. I think either a new hook is needed or a clearer source indicating that a bribe did indeed take place. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:13, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think that's fair! Would changing the hook to "may have bribed a British officer" be alright, or should I come up with something new entirely? Isoxys (talk) 19:42, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Article is new and long enough. It is well-sourced, uses inline citations, neutral, and I cannot see any copy violations. The hook is good, interesting and cited to five online sources in the Founding section. QPQs have been done. - JuneGloom07Talk05:03, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Maximilian775JuneGloom07 - are we sure this source is reliable? It seems just like an ordinary non-profit with no extra fact-checking or so and I'm not sure about its reliability. Of the five sources that support the fact in the article, one (Schelgel) doesn't seem to mention this, one is the aforementioned one, two are inaccessible to me (not sure how to access those), and the Dept. of the Interior one also doesn't seem to mention this. Just looking for clarification on the notability of the first one. HurricaneZetaC00:21, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh dear, personally I thought it was okay, so that's on me. Looking at the sources again, I believe they cover the first two sentences, so they could be better placed. I AGF on the one I couldn't access (Arter). I did check the book, which does contain references to the railroad. Maybe User:Maximilian775 could add the relevant quote from the Arter source to the ref? - JuneGloom07Talk23:22, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that John David Kali, one of Kenya's early freedom fighters, edited the nationalist paper Sauti ya Mwafrika before becoming Kenya’s first Government Chief Whip?
Source: A Path Not Taken (Thurston 2015), pp. 46–47 – confirms his role as last editor of Sauti ya Mwafrika and assistant editor of Sauti ya KANU; Parliament / Embakasi sources – confirm he served as Kenya’s first Government Chief Whip in 1963.
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Created by NdukuKali11 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Note article has a tag saying that more citations are needed as every end of paragraph (outside of the lead) should have a citation. This should be resolved before promotion. Simply removing the tag won't fix it. JuniperChill (talk) 15:07, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Noting that the nominator did respond on their own talk page to this, below the transcluded nomination page; I'm changing the icon so this isn't closed prematurely. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:14, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For context, the nom proposed this hook: "ALT1: … that John David Kali, one of Kenya’s early freedom fighters, edited the nationalist paper Sauti ya Mwafrika before becoming Kenya’s first Government Chief Whip?" It doesn't really solve the concerns, however. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:47, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Regardless of the issue with sourcing, the main issue is that the hook's interest as currently written is questionable. It is not exactly unusual for nationalists to be journalists or to have written nationalist works. Instead of focusing on him being a Kenyan freedom fighter, I would instead suggest something like "that John David Kali, Kenya's first Government Whip, was...", possibly with a fact focusing on his previous career. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:45, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer:
Thank you for your candid feedback. I want to address both of your points directly:
1. On LLM Usage:** I confirm that the core research (largely from Migrated files at the National Archives and family records), facts, and structure of this article are a combination of my brother's and my own work. I have been using an AI assistant solely for **editing, formatting, fixing technical errors (like the previous image and citation link issues), and checking compliance** with strict Wikipedia policies. I understand the concern and will ensure all future edits are phrased entirely in my own voice and rigorously checked against policy.
2. On Unreliable Sources (Wikipedia Citations):** You are absolutely correct. I apologize for using these. I have gone through the source list and **removed all citations that linked back to Wikipedia** ("Kenya in World War II," "Embakasi Constituency"). These facts are now entirely supported by reliable, external sources like the published book references (Anderson, Thurston, Ng'weno) that are already in the article.
I trust this clears your queries.
It resolves some of them. LLMs are notorious for hallucinating things but given Talk:John David Kali#COI disclosure you'd know if it was chatting toot. Apologies for not saying this before, but Wikimedia Commons also needs to go. And the paragraph beginning "Family archival records" is clearly a note, not sure why you put this back in prose.--Launchballer18:52, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@ManoiCMU: Long enough, new enough, no QPQ needed, Earwig's clean. No reason why this might deserve a maintenance template. My preference is a trimmed version of ALT2 as follows: ALT2a: ... that the celestial Cūḷāmaṇi Cetiya(pictured) is believed to enshrine both the Buddha's topknot and his right canine?, except I can't find it in the article.--Launchballer18:26, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: I see at the end of the first paragraph of the legend section that I used the word "hair relic" instead of "topknot," and the right canine can be found in the second paragraph. If needed, I can change “hair” to “topknot.” The article supports that two of the Buddha’s remaining relics are enshrined in the pagoda. I’m really not clear about your question. ManoiCMU (talk) 09:36, 12 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I didn't choose this topic--the topic chose me. Certainly the most opportune "animated first by country" I've chanced upon in my WP career--from the moment the Brew first brought it up during its Toronto premiere. This one ticked a lot of boxes as concerns my tastes and interests: feature animation, furry works, LGBTQ+ (as a sympathiser), arthouse fare, and foreign cinema. All of which has led to not only my most ambitious quest for a Four Award,Which could also become AFC's fifth, months from now but also my most ambitious DYK pitch to date--thus concluding Phase 2a of that Four campaign. (So many hook options, so much Google-pinging, so little time.) How much this brings the furry crowd to WP's front page next year--and whether the fine press will take notice--time and the Masters will tell. As always, WP is short on coverage of animated African media, especially in terms of quality. (Caribbean audiovisual content, too--speaking as a Florida-based expatriate--but that's for another thread.) As an editor who has endured for 20 years, an FA may finally be in my sights--and I'll never have to worry about editing again once I get it. After ages of prospects and false starts, it's about time already... With special thanks to AFC approver LuniZunie (talk·contribs).
Moved to mainspace by Slgrandson (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 16 past nominations.
ALT2: ... that the gardens around the Cenotaph(pictured) in Bulawayo, Zimbabwe, a monument erected after the First World War, are described as "a good place to relax" whilst learning about history? 1
Comment: I could be wrong on this, but it's my understanding that Wikipedia prefers that one crop the negative borders of scanned images like this for online usage, as it is more decorative here than useful. Viriditas (talk) 00:48, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep both instead. This may be an exception to the rule. The bordered version looks better to me than the crop due to the vertical alignment of the pillars. Viriditas (talk) 04:11, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Willthorpe: Long enough, new enough, QPQ done, Earwig's clean. No reason why this might need a maintenance template. ALT1 and ALT2 vary from the article, which says that the Cenotaph was laid in 1921, unveiled in 1925, dedicated in 1970, and described as "a good place to relax" rather than is one. That leaves ALT0, which strikes me as a bogstandard thing for a war memorial to do. What else have you got?--Launchballer11:22, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies for dropping this - and for not saying earlier that what would need to be "have been described as "a good place to relax"" would be promotional.--Launchballer18:56, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. ALT0 is missing a word for it to make sense, and if I'm reading the article correctly, that word would be "one": "... that one of the Republican activists interviewed in the 2006 documentary ...So Goes the Nation later changed parties?" With regard to ALT2, if the filmmakers were "originally trying to document possible voter fraud" in the election, that implies that they might have changed their minds and decided to focus on something else, or perhaps that they couldn't find evidence of voter fraud. What did they wind up with instead? I can't really tell from the article. --Metropolitan90(talk)16:15, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Olliefant: Long enough, new enough. Both QPQs are done and Earwig is currently clean, though I removed one instance of WP:CLOP as part of a wholesale removal of WP:COATRACK material. No other reason why this might deserve a maintenance template. I'm afraid I find all of the hooks to be as dull as dishwater; what else have you got? Also, the image violates WP:DYKDIVERT and cannot run.--Launchballer23:12, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that the Jewish underground newspaper from the Warsaw Ghetto, Żagiew, has been misrepresented as a Gestapo organization? Source: Libionka & Weinbaum 2012, p. 687, as cited in the article
Overall: @Piotrus: Article looks good. Nice work. Two things: (i) could you show me a quote from the offline source to verify the hook? & (ii) would it be better to describe it as a magazine in the hook, to reflect the article? BeanieFan11 (talk) 04:07, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, got it. Definition according to Komorowski (2014), p. 819:
Żagiew, an underground magazine published in the Warsaw Ghetto since February 1942 (...) The magazine promoted the ideas of Polish patriotism and Jewish assimilation. Its publishers were isolated within the Jewish community. [...] From December 1942 to February 1943, the Żagiew Information Bulletin was published in the Warsaw Ghetto. [...] The ŻOB sentenced the bulletin’s publisher, Adam Szajn, who was shot on February 28, 1943. In postwar literature, Żagiew’s activities were gradually mythologized. The name of the organization was later considered to be a codename for the 'Jewish Freedom Guard.' Even the publishers of Żagiew from the spring of 1942 were accused of acting on orders from the German authorities. Eventually, all Jewish Gestapo agents operating in Warsaw from 1940 to 1944 — including Abraham Gancwajch and Group 13 — were subsumed under the label of the Żagiew organization.
This is my translation from Polish. As for the second issue, the above mentioned source use the term czasopismo ("magazine") or biuletyn ("bulletin").Dreamcatcher25 (talk) 17:57, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have pulled this from prep as the hook does not accurately reflect the article. The hook says the organization has been "misrepresented" as a Gestapo org, but the article is much more equivocal, with one scholar supporting the claim that it was a Gestapo organ, while another two "leave the question open". In these circumstances, you can't make the categorical statement that the claims are untrue. In short, the hook needs work. Pinging nominators Dreamcatcher25 and Piotrus. Gatoclass (talk) 11:05, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can only partially agree with your assessment. While it is true that some scholars do not rule out the possibility that the magazine Żagiew had ties to the Gestapo, there is no doubt that Żagiew was not an extensive network of armed collaborators and informers. I would suggest rephrasing the hook to: "that the Jewish underground magazine from the Warsaw Ghetto, Żagiew, has been misrepresented as a Gestapo intelligence network."Dreamcatcher25 (talk) 11:26, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Other problems: - Article is full of single-sentence paragraphs
Hook eligibility:
Cited: - The source provided is myholidayhappiness.com
Interesting:
QPQ: None required.
Overall: @Earth605: New enough, long enough. Neutral in tone. QPQ not required. Presentability is an issue since the article is filled with single-sentence paragraphs. Sourcing is also an issue. Since the lake was built in the early medieval period, and is surrounded by the Badami cave temples, it should have some mention in academic sources. AmateurHi$torian (talk) 09:06, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article states, "It is not known how was the lake built". However, this source states that "Bâdami is situated at the outlet between two rocky hills on its north and south-east sides, a dam to the east of the town between the bases of the hills forming a large tank for the supply of water to the town". So, it's quite clear how the lake was built. -AmateurHi$torian (talk) 09:17, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
2. "Some Whispers from Eternity: Book on Evolution of Consciousness and Upliftment of Humanity Through OM Kriya Yoga" by Shomik Chaudhuri.
3. www.sterlingholidays.com
4. www.avathi.com
5. myholidayhappiness.com
Please do familiarize yourself with WP:RS (particularly WP:SOURCETYPES and WP:RSSELF). Since this article is about a lake built in the 7th century and surrounded by medieval temples, cave temples, and other historic buildings, the best sources for this topic would be published articles/books by historians/archaeologists. Other sources, such as news articles are also acceptable, especially for the part about recent flooding, which wouldn't appear in any history books, for example ("The Hindu" is considered very reliable, The Times of India less so but it depends on context).
The problem with the sources I've mentioned is that anyone can create a blog or write a book. That says nothing for the validity of these sources.
There might be a local folk/mythological belief that this lake is the one mentioned in the Mahabharata, and that it was built by Agastya himself. That can be included in the article. But the problem is, there has to be a source for this. -AmateurHi$torian (talk) 11:22, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that according to Bunyan Saptomo, the Indonesian mass killings of 1965–66 is not a human rights violation? Source: Kresna, Mawa (6 August 2017). Salam, Fahri (ed.). "Menilik Rekam Jejak 14 Calon Komisioner Komnas HAM" [Examining the Track Record of 14 Candidates for Komnas HAM Commissioner]. Tirto (in Indonesian). Retrieved 19 November 2025. Dari tiga nama ini, Bunyan Saptomo sempat menjadi perhatian saat dialog terbuka pada tahap seleksi. Bunyan mengatakan bahwa hak asasi manusia bukan prinsip dan landasan universal dan kasus pembantaian massal 1965 bukan pelanggaran HAM. [Of the three candidates, Bunyan Saptomo attracted attention during the open dialogue during the selection stage. He stated that human rights are not a universal principle or foundation, and that the 1965 mass killings were not a human rights violation.]
Long enough, new enough. QPQs are both done and the hook checks out... to a foreign-language citation whose source paragraph's Google translation is almost identical to the one in our article. Suggest that you resolve said WP:CLOP.--Launchballer17:59, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The source reads "...we ended up in Ayn Warda, an Assyrian village famous for having been a bastion of resistance to the genocide during World War I."
Improved to Good Article status by Surayeproject3 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Interesting: - I don't think it works to center "famous" in the hook, since many places that were the site of well-known military actions gain interest as a result.
Other problems: - "heroic" fails WP:POV.
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Having written the Sayfo article, my eye was caught by "it is one of the only episodes of Assyrian resistance to the genocide". I am not sure it's true. What does the source say exactly?
I have also read elsewhere that the so called "Midyat Rebellion" was an invention of Ottoman officials who imagined that independent resistance efforts were part of a coordinated, seditious conspiracy. But this article posits it as a fact
Page 55 of the cited source says Only rarely did this resistance result in an Assyrian victory, such as in the villages of Azakh and Ayn-Wardo.; I have changed the article text to "successful episodes" coinciding. The Midyat Rebellion part is cited to an article by David Gaunt; The events of Midyat have enabled Turkish historians to interpret the meager defense as a rebellion, thus justifying the full severity of its repression by the Ottoman authorities. I cannot access Kaiser's 2014 book anywhere. Surayeproject3 (talk) 04:41, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think that the Gaunt source actually supports what I said more than the current wording in the article, since it says that "rebellion" is an interpretation by "Turkish historians". "Were labeled" is vague and suggests this is a more widespread interpretation than it actually is. (t · c) buidhe20:21, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was looking for another hook but I found some other issues:
13,000 men — seems pretty WP:EXTRAORDINARY. That's only a bit less than the Ottomans had at major battles such as the Battle of Aleppo (1918), yet they spared this many men to attack an Assyrian village defended only by haphazardly armed and trained militia in the middle of a war?? and still lost despite outnumbering the strength of the defenders nearly 10:1???
The last two paras of Background are really confusing. Are Arnas and Enhil the same place? Who is in charge of the defense, Shabo or Miraza? (t · c) buidhe03:44, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Gaunt (2006), Çetinoğlu (2017), and Akdemir (2023) cite the 13,000 figure. Assyrians developed a force of 6-7,000, so it's actually 2:1 on Ottoman:Assyrian strengths; if it was 10 for Ottoman, Iwardo would have for sure been wiped out. The sources cited also give descriptions of both Shabo and Miraza as leaders of the defence.Surayeproject3 (talk) 04:58, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Based on the article, I thought the 6-7000 figure was for total population and of these only 700-1000 were fighters (which is plausible given demographics at the time). This should be clarified, as should the matter of leadership. It might be helpful to clarify where the 13,000 figure originally comes from (check footnotes), is this from Ottoman documents or is it an estimate from Assyrian oral history? (t · c) buidhe19:47, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Çetinoğlu cites William Dalrymple's From the Holy Mountain but I couldn't find any statistic info in his writings (on top of that, the source denies Assyrian continuity, which is considered greatly offensive and so I am not willing to include it anyway). Gaunt states that the number of villagers who were in Iwardo is from two sources, including by that Syriac Catholic priest mentioned in "Aftermath", so it's probable these numbers are estimates from Assyrian oral history. I've made it clear that Miraza and Shabo both co-led the defence, especially as Shabo was the village lead of Iwardo during the genocide. Surayeproject3 (talk) 15:40, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am still having trouble with the infobox. The issue with infoboxes in contexts like this one is that they can give the impression of more certainty of figures than the sources do, which is why it is omitted in the Sayfo article. I would recommend removing the infobox or, failing that, keeping it to military strength (the current figure of 7,000 includes civilians, which is not appropriate) and adding (estimated) or something like that. (t · c) buIdhe19:01, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
it still says "Kurdish & Ottoman soldiers surrendered". I don't have the patience to go over the entire article for accuracy issues. (t · c) buIdhe19:26, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, eventually the Kurdish and Ottoman tribes decided to negotiate a truce and the defence was formally concluded through such. I have removed it anyways as the article still makes this information clear; is there anywhere where I can disseminate specific infobox criteria for articles moving forward? Surayeproject3 (talk) 19:36, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A truce is not the same thing as surrender. At this point I cannot support the article being put on the main page, I think that the content issues are beyond what can be reasonably fixed at DYK. The fact that I'm several comments in and still dealing with basic factual / WP:VER issues is not encouraging. (t · c) buIdhe06:04, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As the creator of the draft page, I don't feel comfortable actually reviewing this,, but I wanted to comment. I find the first hook stronger than the other two, but I do wonder if it could be gussied up more. Could it be tweaked to say that he departed the series due to his cancer before returning with Groove? - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 01:45, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, and welcome to DYK. To answer your question, ALT3 is unlikely to be accepted due to being too long. DYK generally prefers shorter hooks as they are more likely to catch attention and be easier to read. I'm not sure if I will give this a review or not, but for now I would say that ALT1 is probably the best option here as it not only a shorter hook compared to ALT4 but also is not reliant on readers knowing about the game to find it interesting. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:43, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that time limits in the 2025 video game Time Flies are based on the life expectancy of the country the player selects? Source: Also from Nintendo Life "your in-game lifespan (measured in seconds) is tied to the average life expectancy of the country you're in. [...] You’re free to set any country as your location ahead of each ‘run’."
Comment: This looks like another A Short Hike (as the name suggests) video game to me in terms of length. I have nominated this seven days after creation so should be alright.
Created by Vrxces (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations.
Humble suggestion as article creator - there are plenty of short games out there - the WHO time limit thing is a much more unique and unusual hook I think! ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 09:47, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Eugene Parker(pictured) described the mathematics behind his revolutionary solar wind discovery as "just four lines of algebra"?
Source: [doi.org/10.1038%2Fs41550-022-01686-z]
ALT1: ... that Eugene Parker(pictured) never used computers for his research, never co-authored papers unless he personally reproduced all calculations, and never wrote papers with his own PhD students? Source: for reproducing the math and computers [10], for PhD students [11]
ALT2: ... that astrophysicist Eugene Parker(pictured) had his 1958 solar wind theory dismissed by reviewers and widely rejected by the astronomical community, only to be confirmed just four years later by Mariner 2 spacecraft? Source: [12]
ALT3: ... that when Eugene Parker(pictured) published his solar wind theory in 1958, it was rejected by peer reviewers and criticized by the astronomical community, but was confirmed by satellite observations within four years? Source: [13]
ALT4: ... that Eugene Parker's(pictured) 1958 solar wind theory—rejected by reviewers and dismissed by astronomers—was vindicated just four years later when Mariner 2 confirmed his predictions? Source: [14]
Parker is mostly known because the PSP was named after him, so I think it's better to highlight something Parker himself did, rather than the honor NASA gave him. Artem.G (talk) 09:12, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the thing here is that we're aiming for a general audience, not a specialist one. Many might recognize the probe, but many might not even realize that he was still alive at the time it was named after him. Maybe it's just my astronomy buff side showing, but I think the NASA fact will appeal to a broader audience than the work stuff, even if the latter is his accomplishment and what led to the probe being named after him in the first place. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:14, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Artem.G: Having seen the other hook options again, I'm also partial to ALT0 and ALT1 (with a slight preference for ALT0 because it is a catchy quote). If you can propose a hook about the PSP, I can give this a full review, leaving the final choice to the promoter. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:21, 12 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
hey, sorry, missed the reply somehow. I still prefer the original hooks, but you are probably right that this one can be catchier:
New enough - Created 11/22/25 and nominated 11/24/25
Long enough - article contains 2442 characters of prose
References:
The Design Journal reference does not support "circular, white, concrete structure" in the description of the office. Circular is in regard to the display cases and there is no mention of construction material. Also states that architects are G. and G. Grima but does not say that they are brothers of shop owner. This fact is also referenced by Daily Telegraph but I could not access it. Is it described there?
The National Heritage List of England reference - I don't see the support for "extraordinary" statement. I see Grade II for Wartski's
The NHLE article mentions "A precursor of Wartski's was the extraordinary Grima jewellers shop front in Jermyn Street (1962), composed of rough-hewn slate slabs and steel with very small windows, which does not survive." [15]No Swan So Fine (talk) 22:41, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can't access Brown ref but AGF
Earwig copyvio calculator shows 23.1% violation unlikely - it's all due to the Grima quote and is OK
hook other comments - I think the hook is interesting - however a couple comments. I'm not sure everyone knows James Bond - you may want to link to the List of James Bond villains page. Also not sure if you should have the quotation marks for just part of the quote. Consider keeping just James Bond without quotes or adding the whole quote (and also linking to Barbarella (film)
@No Swan So Fine: I've completed my review. Just a few comments to address on references and hook. I have no dog in the hunt on the name of the page and I will approve with or without that change. Well referenced and interesting article. Good job! Dwkaminski (talk) 18:54, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that Kayla Simmons, a former volleyball player, is now a model and OnlyFans creator? Source: Also from SCMP: "She’s also a model [...] and a creator on adult entertainment platform OnlyFans"
Comment: Permitted per WP:CALC. I would like to note that as she's the "world's sexiest volleyball player", that the article may be NSFW as she's now a model and mostly posts on social media in her revealing bikinis. I have provided ALT1 for this reason.
Created by JuniperChill (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 16 past nominations.
I looked at WP:RSP and it says that NYP may be used if its under the entertainment section and the one I cited says falls under that. At least SCMP is reliable (hence why I've used that several times) and the rest are not there. JuniperChill (talk) 12:01, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I have made the decision not to use ALT0 as I would expect the reader to think its a biography about her volleyball career, when its mostly about her modelling career in revealing bikinis and swimsuits. Maybe I could combine both and say ALT2:"that after Kayla Simmons served as a team captain in volleyball for ten years, she is now a model and OnlyFans creator?" JuniperChill (talk) 21:28, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Read further on the RSP entry - NYPOST is not to be used for controversial facts about living people. I also spotchecked this, after seeing some odd language Look at By the time Kayla Simmons graduated, she already built up an incredible following that continues to grow.[16] and compare w/ the article's By the time she graduated, she already built up an incredible amount of following. This is pretty closely paraphrased and while sentences this short can fall under LIMITED, I don't think this one does; it's a bit too complex, and the actual heart of the sentence- "incredible following" isn't that needed? Anyways, I'm not rejecting or that, but please fix it and double check the rest of the article for any similar issues. GreenLipstickLesbian💌🧸02:12, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To be fair, I'm not sure if its controversial because the quote in the source is from herself, where it says "“I wanted small boobs because it would make everything easier for volleyball" to the point WP:ABOUTSELF applies. And this is my first biography article, where I thought I had hope with Lauren Burch (a Canadian social media influencer/cosplay with over 8m Tiktok following). I also reworded the close paraphrasing to At the time her of graduation, she already had a lot of following.JuniperChill (talk) 17:55, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Chiming in here. I agree that, while the use of the NY Post is not ideal, it is not a deprecated source and may be used in limited circumstances. Assuming that the interview is authentic, this does appear to be an WP:ABOUTSELF case, so it should be acceptable in this particular case. Having said that, if better sources could be found that support the claims, then use those instead or in addition to the NY Post source. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:06, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that in August 2025, tech podcaster Dwarkesh Patel started a fundraiser that raised over $2 million for anti-factory farming charities?
Source: "Earlier this month, a fundraiser for nonprofits that fight to end factory farming went a little viral — at least in one corner of the internet...Dwarkesh Patel, the influential tech podcaster, announced on his show that if his listeners donated a collective $250,000 to FarmKind, an organization that distributes money to anti-factory farming charities, so would he. They did — and then some...So far, Patel and his listeners — including Stripe CEO Patrick Collison, professional poker player Liv Boeree, and popular Substack writer Noah Smith — have raised over $2 million. For the global anti-factory farming movement, which works on a shoestring budget to fix one of the most challenging and neglected social issues of our time, that’s a lot of money."Vox
@Thriley: why do you need the month and year in the hook? Can you add an ALT1 without it please? Also, you could eliminate more words. "Started a fundraiser" is just redundant. By shortening it to something like "... that tech podcaster Dwarkesh Patel helped raise over $2 million for anti-factory farming charities?" gives you an opportunity to add more interesting material to it or just keep it short. Viriditas (talk) 22:25, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Moved from AFC draft to mainspace on 25 November.[17] Nominated for DYK 3 December.[18] Based on the timestamps, this is 188.88 hours, or 7.87 days, almost 21 hours over the deadline; I assume this is within the grace period given that the "seven-day limit can be extended for a day or two upon request". I need a second opinion for this review as I made far too many edits cleaning this up, rewriting and adding content, and proposing new hooks up above. Viriditas (talk) 00:52, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that within seven years, Mamadali Kurbanov rose from being a miner to being a prime minister?
Source: ref 3 in the article notes he was a miner from 1924 to 1930; he became Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars, effectively prime minister, in 1937
Comment: The second QPQ will be done within 24 hours.
Moved to mainspace by BeanieFan11 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 436 past nominations.
Other problems: - Wording is imprecise. See below in comments.
QPQ: Done.
Overall: Article is long and new enough; it was submitted for DYK nomination within the required timeframe. It is properly sourced and impartial. The hook is interesting, but needs rewording for clarification. Although I'm very familiar with Russian and RSFSR history, my knowledge about some former Soviet republics is less sure. Because of the change in the political system that occurred when the Tajik SSR became modern Tajikistan, is it accurate to refer to the position of the Chairmen of the Council of People's Commissars as that of a "prime minister"? The article for Prime Minister of Tajikistan seems unclear. However, the article for Izatullo Khayoyev states that he was "the first Prime Minister of Tajikistan" and distinguishes between that role and his previous role as Chairmen of the Council of Ministers, which is the same that Kurbanov had once held. CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:51, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article relies heavily on Israeli and highly partisan sources such as Kataeb, Iran International. Le Figaro and other mainstream/reliable sources should be cited instead of intermediaries. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but the article treats the existence and structure of the network as established fact rather than allegations by prosecutors. --Երևանցիtalk10:53, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article is new enough and long enough, and the hook is definitely interesting. However the page needs a look at for reliable sources. The DYK hook is directly referenced to the Daily Express. Per WP:DAILYEXPRESS this source is not recommended. The Newsflare source is "Uploaded by a Newsflare content partner", which doesn't seem very definitive. The hook is also cited to NDTV, but their description of the claimed history is a lot less. Unknown Temptation (talk) 15:27, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reserving. My first observation is that the hook ought to say Horses with a proper noun, as it may be confusing otherwise. I.e. " ... that a November 2025 ban on the video game Horses sparked discussion about censorship of adult content?" - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 04:05, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Article is only slightly older than seven days on nomination, but honestly that feels like it could just as well be a rounding error essentially, so no issue for me.
Article is adequately cited
IDK if this affects anything wrt the April Fool's Day joke, but I noted that there's no source for the hook. Is that to avoid spoiling it? Is it possible to find a source that doesn't spoil it with the URL title?
Should be in the article. I make a point of not providing it here because I've seen too many reviewers tick it off based on what's here and not there.--Launchballer13:14, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that 22-year-old Elliot Rodger murdered six people during the 2014 Isla Vista killings because he claimed women rejected him and he had never had sex?
ALT1: ... that 22-year-old Elliot Rodger murdered six people and injured fourteen others during the 2014 Isla Vista killings because he was a lifelong virgin and believed women had rejected him? Source: BBC
Comment: I find the idea of linking a horrific real-life murder spree that took the lives of six innocent people as a cute little bite-sized "fun fact" to be in incredibly, incredibly poor taste. CornyDude22 (talk) 13:17, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
While I'm not opposed to this running in principle - one of the WP:DYKAIMs is to showcase the range of our content and that includes topics like this one - presenting what are the deranged rantings of an incel on the main page is a bit much. I have struck the two hooks, and suggest that @Shoot for the Stars: propose something else; I suggest ALT2: ... that six 2014 killings committed by Elliot Rodger sparked discussion of broader issues of violence against women and misogyny? or perhaps something about California's first red flag law. You may also wish to see if either WP:GARC or WP:GARP would take Rodger's article so this can run as a double nom.--Launchballer20:53, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT3 ... that the 2014 Isla Vista killings led to California enacting a red-flag law, which allows family members to petition courts to remove weapons from persons deemed a threat?
Source #1: 'Misery' Nurse Set for Early Release (Newsmax) states: The pediatric nurse who inspired Stephen King's novel "Misery" by killing dozens of young children is to be released after serving only 35 years because of a Texas state law granting mandatory release to inmates with good behavior.
Source #2: This one at The Conversation: Indeed, it has been suggested that the real life serial killer nurse Genene Jones, who murdered as many as 60 babies in Texas in the 1970s and 1980s, was the inspiration for King’s character.
Comment: I decided to avoid the term "serial killer" in the hook because (and regretfully) this frail-looking evil woman managed to "technically" escape the term and nearly got free! Edit upon seeing tag: I see that probably Newsmax triggers depecrated tag... Please if you need me to find out more reliable sources (The Conversation I think it's okay), ping me.
5x expanded by CoryGlee (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.
Comment: would suggest rewording it to remove all links but Jones' in order to keep traffic from the hook to the improved article. Perhaps "... that a Stephen King antagonist was reportedly inspired by a real-life killer nurse? The inclusion of 'real-life' can be removed if preferred. Roast (talk) 00:48, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It is fact about the song being that old and from where (and interesting that from two areas now in different countries, and even then disconnected). The rest is a translation of things from the first stanza, to say what someone not reading German could not know. It adds interest, - I don't know about any other song imagining the little angels doing somersaults, and it connects to the image (which isn't brilliant but has a similar idea). Sadly, it hasn't been translated into English, and is so much (cute) dialect that translation programs won't help. - Listen, it's fun ;) - Thanks to Michael Bednarek who brought that into our Lilypond. Other hook ideas welcome, of course. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What in "18th-century song from Tyrol and Swabia" is fiction? We better also say what it is about, especially if that is interesting: little angels tumbling through the gate of Heaven that opened. I found a site translating into German, and that fed to Deepls results in: "The heavenly gate has opened / The little angels tumble out in great numbers / The boys and girls do somersaults / First up and down, then back and forth / Then below again, then on top of each other, which makes them even happier." Listen and enjoy. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:57, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:DYKFICTION states simply acknowledging that a hook is about a creative work is not sufficient, nor is adding an unrelated real-world fact to a hook which is otherwise about a creative element. In this case, saying that the hook's subject is a real-world carol from a real-world place (such as saying that the carol came from Austria), but is still ultimately about "in-universe" or "in-plot" information (i.e. what is happening in the carol), would not count as a real-world connection. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:11, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This appears to be at an impasse, so giving some hook suggestions here. One of the hooks is misleading, but it might work as an April Fools hook if you are willing to have this run on April Fools instead of Christmas. However, it might also work as a quirky.
ALT1 ... that Karl Marx made an arrangement of a Christmas carol? (The link to Marx could be removed if this runs on April Fools)
ALT2 ... that "Es hat sich halt eröffnet" is the only known Christmas carol in the Swabian German dialect? (This would require modifying the article and stronger sourcing per WP:DYKHOOKCITE due to it being a superlative hook)
Thank you for the offers. I am not interested in ALT2, because it is purely historical and offers no joy. I could live with ALT1 if nothing else gets accepted, but hope we will not have to do that. ALT3 is correct, but true for more than this song, and softly misleading regarding what "too secular" may mean. I thought of the following (before I saw the suggestions, - just had no time yet):
I would like the information about the two disconnect areas without saying "first" or "only", as unusual. I would like a hint at how old this is, - Mozart may have known it (published the year he was born, but probably older), imagine ;) - Have you listened? I would like to offer some of the fun in this song as a little Christmas present. Any suggestion to capture the little boys and girls angels enjoying their playing is welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:52, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Surprised to see this article in its current state: it's a highly sensitive topic, yet major claims lack sourcing; some parts rely entirely on Ilan Pappé, whose works are considered highly controversial by many historians, and whose own public remarks also raise POV concerns (including describing himself as a "good friend" of Hamas leader, Ismail Haniyeh, and his recent report of being detained and questioned by US authorities over alleged Hamas support). Key context is missing as well, including the Battle of Haifa, actions by both sides, and calls by the city's Jewish leadership for Arab residents to remain. Tagging for NPOV and sourcing issues. Rafi Chazon (talk) 08:15, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The majority of this comment is built on the claim that: some parts rely entirely on Ilan Pappé. Pappé is used once, for half of a minor bullet. So no problem to delete the Pappé source entirely, but I believe it has been established elsewhere that he is a reliable source, so your claims about him may conflict with community consensus. Suggest we let others comment.
On the Battle of Haifa (1948), we can add more context from that article, but it won’t change the explanation of the reason for the demolition, which took place afterwards. We could also add more context from Nakba. The Old Jaffa or Old City of Acre articles do not go into that detail - they are more focused on heritage and architecture, which in my view is also most appropriate for this article. Onceinawhile (talk) 14:28, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article is new and sufficiently long, but several paragraphs lack sources and the other two Old Haifas are not mentioned in the article. Perhaps a hook about its destruction and the reasons for the destruction would be more interesting. Surtsicna (talk) 08:16, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Onceinawhile, the article still does not say that these three all different places. Have we got a source that says that? If not, I would still suggest that you propose a hook about its destruction. Surtsicna (talk) 09:39, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Surtsicna, the article says The Old City of Haifa had at least two predecessors: the Roman and Byzantine city 2.5km to the southeast, and the medieval city 2.5km to the northwest.[5][6]
... that Cecil Kent Drinker proposed safety measures to ensure factory workers did not suffer the same outcome as the Radium Girls?
Source: After receiving the full report from Drinker, the New Jersey labor commissioner declared that all the recommended safety measures be put in place which prompted the factory to close. After the workers sued the company, major industry safety improvements were put in place and radium-based paint was banned in the 1960s. (Source)
ALT1: ... that Cecil Kent Drinker conducted research that resulted in the development of high-altitude oxygen masks and goggles for pilots? Source: During World War II, he conducted research for the United States Armed Forces' National Defense Research Committee which resulted in the development of high-altitude oxygen masks and goggles for pilots. (Source)
ALT2: ... that Cecil Kent Drinker was the first dean of the Harvard School of Public Health to admit women as degree candidates? Source: He was the first dean to admit women into the school of public health as degree candidates. (Source)
ALT3: ... that Cecil Kent Drinker was a drinker? Source: He suffered from alcoholism and lost his leadership position at Harvard in 1942. (Source: Spears page 82)
I'm not sure any of these hooks pass WP:DYKINTEREST. for ALT0-2, it's obvious that someone would have held these roles, so it's not necessarily sufficiently novel to name the person involved. ALT3 is an interesting wordplay but I'm not sure it's enough for the main page. (t · c) buIdhe17:42, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wow... tough room. Agree that ALT3 is a throw-away. Fair enough on ALT2 that someone had to be first but disagree on ALT0 and ALT1. Howzabout:
ALT4: ... that Cecil Kent Drinker published his safety report on employee radium exposure only after the president of the United States Radium Corporation issued a forged report in his name? Source: A Harvard School of Public Health colleague, Alice Hamilton, learned that the United States Radium Corporation had submitted Drinker's report to the New Jersey Department of Labor with the results altered to show the company in a better light. With this evidence that Roeder had acted in bad faith, Drinker ignored the threat of lawsuit and published his unaltered report. (Source)
That's definitely the best one proposed. Although you might consider combining ALT3 and 4 by substituting "a drinker" bold linked instead of his name. (t · c) buIdhe18:31, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'll pass on combing ALT3 and ALT4 as proposed. I thought it was funny to do the play on words but don't want to forsake his name in the main hook for one negative portion of his life. Thanks! Dwkaminski (talk) 18:38, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, and thank you for your review! Regarding the hook - the reason I had thought it could be interesting was because it was the 1870s, so near-unanimous support for something like this sounds very interesting. An alternative could be: ... that in 1876, all Republican politicians in Connecticut supported removing the requirement of being white to vote except for one, while all Democrats opposed it?
... that Billy Gallagher'sTimes Squarecabaret was open from sundown to dawn, with a mix of "reputable people" and those "who had practical reasons for circulating after dark"?
Source: "BILLY GALLAGHER, CAFE OWNER, DIES", "For the last fifteen years he could be found in his underground cabaret at 711 Seventh Avenue, near Forty-seventh Street, which did not open until after sundown. As other entertainment places, restaurants and speakeasies closed after midnight, business picked up at Billy Gallagher's cabaret, until at dawn it was astir with reputable people still celebrating, and others who had practical reasons for circulating after dark."
New, long enough, sourced, no apparent copyvios. The hook largely checks out, and is interesting. Mike Christie and Alansohn, there are two slight issues. First, I'm a bit confused by his establishments. The hook says he had a Times Square cabaret, but the article speaks of (a) "a restaurant named Broadway Gardens at 711 Seventh Avenue", (b) "a restaurant in Times Square near 47th Street", and a "cabaret ... that opened after the sun set and ... remain[ed] open until dawn". Are these each different things? Second, the article could benefit from a bit of attention paid to its formatting. Although the length requirement for DYK is not onerous, having a single-sentence lead followed but a single section titled "Life" is less than ideal. Could a few subsections be added? Overall, though, an interesting article. It's fun to see an article like this, pulling up old sources about someone who seems to have been largely lost to the past. --Usernameunique (talk) 06:53, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Usernameunique, thanks for the review and the recommendations. It's always hard to dig up further details for someone who lived and died so long ago, but I will do my best. Let me make sure that the location details cited are accurate. Thanks again! Alansohn (talk) 07:26, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not a review, but two paragraphs are unsourced (with a third ending in unsourced claims despite having sources), and the not himself featured in any surviving portrait part isn't even mentioned in the article. Nominated articles generally should not have unsourced claims and the hook should be in the article itself; please see the DYK rules at WP:DYKG. Welcome to DYK though. ミラP@Miraclepine22:08, 5 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: The article is new enough, having been created 3 December, and nominated on the 5th. It is also long enough, and Earwig reports no copyvio concerns (although as most the sources are offline ones, there is a certain amount of AGF here). see below) Also noting as Miraclepine has above that there are unsourced paragraphs and facts in the article, which needs fixing. I find the hook fact interesting, but it isn't cited in the article. If the hook is sourced to an offline source, you will need to provide a quote so that I can verify it.
What is a "signet"? I have not come across the term used like this before (only in signet ring) and am not convinced this is standard usage for how photographers sign their work.
Besides fixing the hook and sourcing issues, I would also encourage you to put a couple of other facts from the article in the lead, so it is a better summary of the article.
Alright I did a check on the one online source, which is in German, and realised a couple of sentences are straight translations of copyrighted material: "In the late 1920s and 1930s, up to 1937, the Binder studio was considered the largest photographic studio in Europe." and "In 1948/49, the Binder studio was taken over by the company Hasse and Wiese.". I believe this is a copyright violation and these should be rephrased. DrThneed (talk) 23:07, 5 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Lake Superior agates(example pictured) are believed to be the world's oldest agates, having formed over a billion years ago?
Source: [19]: "Believed to be the world's oldest agates, over 1 billion years old, these are found throughout the northern US having been spread from the original Lake Superior region by glaciation."
Additional sources that say over one billion or roughly 1.1 billion are cited in the article.
Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by I2Overcome (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Overall: Article is new enough (recent GA), long enough, well sourced an neutral. I think there is one close paraphrase that could be altered or just turned into a quotation: "the Lake Superior agate was designated by the Minnesota Legislature as the official state". I realise Earwig says its OK, but I think better attribution would improve the article. Hook is cited, and is fine, but it struck me that a hook on the eye agates might be more tempting for readers at DYK? Image is used, free and clear. QPQ is not required. Thanks for a great contribution, I enjoyed reading this. Lajmmoore (talk) 22:04, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Looking back at the history, you are right that this statement was probably taken verbatim from this source, because it’s the one phrase that remains intact from before I started working on the article, when most of the article was a copyvio of that source (see this diff) However, I think WP:LIMITED applies here; there are only so many ways to say this. The original source says "In 1969 the dream of Mrs. Jean Dahlberg was realized: The Lake Superior agate was designated by the Minnesota Legislature as the official state gemstone." The source I currently have cited says "The Lake Superior agate was named the official state gemstone in 1969." The article currently says In 1969, the Lake Superior agate was designated by the Minnesota Legislature as the official state gemstone. in the lead and In 1969, the Minnesota Legislature designated Lake Superior agate as the official state gemstone. where it is cited in the Uses section. I could change "Minnesota Legislature" to "State of Minnesota" and "designated" to "made," but that is less precise. I don’t think it makes sense to turn this into a quotation, because it’s not a quotation but a basic statement of fact. Let me know if you have any other suggestions on how to phrase it.
I also disagree that this hook is not interesting. Most agates are much younger and I don’t think the average person realizes just how old some rocks and minerals are. Nonetheless, I’ll get back to you with some possible alternatives soon. I2Overcometalk00:20, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that some Lake Superior agates(examples pictured) have circular, concentric rings on their surfaces, called "eyes"?
Source: Lynch, Dan R.; Lynch, Bob (2012). Lake Superior Agates Field Guide. Adventure Publications. ISBN 978-1-59193-282-6. p.83: "Eye Agate—Characteristic Features: Nearly perfectly circular spots on the outer surfaces of agates ... Circular "eyes" are often banded with bull's-eye-like rings"
Source: Lynch, Dan R.; Lynch, Bob (2012). Lake Superior Agates Field Guide. Adventure Publications. ISBN 978-1-59193-282-6. p.121: "Copper Replacement Agate—Characteristic Features: Pale-colored chalcedony bands alternating between bands of pure native copper ... These small agates ... are extremely rare and are only found in a few isolated rock piles at the sites of century-old copper mines."
Thanks...yeah, I was just shoring the festival article up just in case it needed to appear in the park article hook. I don't think the festival will reach 5x anytime soon. StonyBrookbabble02:46, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
World's first air cargo freight flight arriving at Columbus Driving Park on November 7, 1910
... that on November 7, 1910, the world's first commercial air cargo flight took place (pictured), in the United States between Dayton, Ohio, and Columbus, Ohio, flown by Wright Brothers' pilot Philip Parmalee in a Wright Model B airplane, carrying a consignment of 200 pounds (about 88 kilograms) consisting of two parcels of silk for department store owner Max Moorehouse?
Reviewed:
Comment: Nomination suggested by reviewer "Commandant Quacks-a-lot" ; article published from draft last 4 december.
Created by Rolands00004413 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Hello, and welcome to DYK. However, the current hook cannot be used as it is above DYK's 200-character limit. I would suggest a much shorter hook, something like:
The main issue is that, right now, the article only has 650 characters of prose, which is far below the 1,500 character requirement for DYK. In addition, as the article will need copyediting, that number might decrease further. One possible solution to this could be to convert the "Summary for the decade" section into prose, which should result in over 1,500 characters of prose. Regardless, the article currently needs work. Normally, I'd quickfail this, but as this is the nominator's first DYK nomination and the issues are not insurmountable, I could give the nominator up to a week to address the concerns.
@DaniloDaysOfOurLives: Not a review (for now), but yes, new hooks are needed here. ALT0 is not interesting to a broad audience (I do not see the band name as "quirky" enough to be interesting by itself), and I don't imagine ALT1 as being interesting to readers outside the UK (is Joey Essex well-known in the UK? I've never heard of him before). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:29, 5 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The nominator created the article several months ago and improved it to GA status on time. The article meets length and referencing requirements and no close paraphrasing was found. The provided review for the QPQ is a little short, but should be acceptable for DYK purposes. As mentioned earlier, neither hook meets the interestingness guidelines, so a new hook is needed here. In addition, while not a DYK issue, the lede seems too short and does not appear to properly summarize the article, so that may need to be expanded a bit. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:40, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The first hook seems pretty niche and I don't think it would appeal to non-fans of Hollyoaks. The second option has more potential, but I'd like to hear about more hook options from DaniloDaysOfOurLives first. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:18, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, now that I think about it, the ALT probably doesn't work either because just simply getting along with cast members isn't unusual by itself. If anything, it would be more unusual or interesting if they didn't get along but still worked together anyway, or if that relationship went further (i.e. if it led to marriage). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:55, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How are these?
ALT2: ... that Jimmy Essex that got away with being nervous when saying his first lines on Hollyoaks as it was cold? [22]
ALT3: ... that Jimmy Essex received training in hairdressing to help him with his Hollyoaks role? [1]
I'm okay with any of ALT3, ALT4, or ALT5 (I'm most partial to ALT4). Since I don't have access to ALT3 or ALT4's sources, could you give a brief excerpt for each source? I don't think ALT4 is a BLP violation because the article makes it clear the claim was a light-hearted thing and not intended to be negative. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:58, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT3: ""Adam is a whizz with the curling tongs - but how would you fare if one of your cast
mates asked you to do their hair?" I'd panic! When we started the show, we had some lessons, just to make it look as if we knew what we were doing. But I think if I were them, I wouldn't let me anywhere near their hair! I cut my own hair as I haven't got any so it's easy just to shave it. I don't think anyone in the cast would ever ask me to do theirs, though."
ALT4: 1.) "Oooh, what exactly am I allowed to tell you? Jimmy Essex, who plays Adam, is really terrible for getting the giggles so badly that he has to walk off set sometimes! Sometimes it will take us over an hour to film something because he just keeps laughing." 2.) "Tam [Wall, aka Grace] makes me laugh. We tend to keep it together a lot more on set now that Jimmy Essex [who played Adam] has gone, though - he was the worst for giggling!"
Civic nobility in the Papal States' March of Ancona
Source: The fact is supported in the article by the sentence:
"The longest-lasting aristocratic regime was in Macerata, where the patriciate endured for 360 years from its class closure in 1477 to the 1816 reform (excluding the Napoleonic period); it was followed by Fano, Fermo, Recanati and Ripatransone, all with durations exceeding three centuries."
Reviewed:
Created by Sivigliano (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
I have now added the appropriate translation attribution on the article’s talk page using {{translated page}}, and I have also copy-edited the whole article to improve accessibility for non-specialist readers (shorter sentences, brief explanations of key terms). Further suggestions are of course very welcome. --Sivigliano (talk) 16:29, 5 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
King ProteaComment: If, for whatever reason, a photograph is preferable to the proposed illustration, this image could be a good option. I'm indifferent as to which, but would be pleased to see one or the other used, as seeing what the King Protea flower looks like seems important and relevant to the hook. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 12:37, 12 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: While I am aware that two of three organizations (especially Family Crisis Services) is local to Maine, I decided to go for "U.S." in hook due to the article from NCAVP. Feel free to disagree.
Created by CoryGlee (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 10 past nominations.
... that a second hand digital projector and screen helped keep the Auto-Vue Drive-In Theatre from becoming a hops farm?
Source: Projector & Screen- ref 20 Callaghan "After 50 years, Eastern Washington's only drive-in theater changes hands"The only challenge that remained was how they were going to get a new digital projector to replace the outdated film one. New projectors usually cost around $90,000. A solution arose when one of Wisner’s friends told him he could buy a projector for $30,000 for the Alpine and then replace Auto-Vue’s projector with the one that previously had been in the Alpine. Wisner said from there, “everything worked out perfectly.” He had a few friends who were welders – the price of steel was down at the time – and a semitruck driver willing to carry cargo for free culminated in Auto-Vue’s survival."
Screen - Ref 20 Callaghan & Ref 19 Clark "Here's to a happy ending for Colville Auto-Vue". "A tip lead him to Soap Lake for a used screen that was still standing and in good, non-rusty shape. It was his for a $4,000 scrap metal fee"
Hops-Ref 19 Clark "His plan back then was to close the drive-in, which his family had operated since 1974, and turn the land into a hops farm.
ALT1: ... that by 2013 the Auto-Vue Drive-In Theatre was Eastern Washington's last operating drive-in? Source: Ref12 Hansen "Colville's Auto Vue Drive-In falling victim to technology's high price": "Last year, the Auto Vue announced that 2013 would be its final season. After that, there will be no drive-ins in Eastern Washington."
ref 20 Callaghan "After 50 years, Eastern Washington's only drive-in theater changes hands" title and " Today, there are about 335 left, only five of which are in Washington. The only one left in Eastern Washington, Auto-Vue Drive-in Theatre, was recently bought by a couple, along with Colville’s other cinema, the Alpine Theatre."
ALT2: ... that the Auto-Vue Drive-In Theatre was one of 300 U.S. theaters to show Garth Brooks: A Drive-In Concert Experience during the 2020 lockdown? Source: Ref 15 Chareunsy "Brooks makes a drive-in date with fans". "The three nearest venues airing the concert are listed on ticketmaster...and Auto Vue Drive-In Theatere in Colville.."
Ref 16 Johnson "Garth Brooks' special drive-in concert is Saturday. Here's where you can watch it in Utah". "Last Friday, hundreds of thousands of fans waited online anywhere from two to four hours to get a ticket to a special drive-in concert the country star is performing for 300 drive-in theaters across North America this Saturday"
The article was new enough at the time of the nomination and meets length requirements. I did not find any close paraphrasing, and a QPQ has been provided. Either ALT0 or ALT1 work (with a slight preference for ALT1) as they are interesting; however, ALT1 is not currently DYKHFC compliant, so I cannot sign that off until that is addressed. In addition, the article needs a copyedit as I noticed multiple grammatical issues and typos: for example, "Memorial day" and "digital only distribution" (lacking a hyphen). A single use of "unfortunately" also needs to be removed per WP:WTA. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:14, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Alt1 citation moved forward one sentence to comply with DYKHFC. "Unfortunately" swapped out for different word choice. Grammar is not a DYK barrier.--Kevmin§17:53, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You do not have the authority to hold up a nomination for minor grammar issues that do not violate policy. Either the DYN criteria are fulfilled or specific DYK rules need to be supplied with rational.--Kevmin§00:49, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's not much work to fix those grammatical errors. A request for copyediting is reasonable even if it's not part of the DYK criteria. I have brought up such requests in previous reviews, this is literally the first time I have seen resistance to such a request. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:18, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that the title of an early Elton John song has been described as "something you might stumble upon in the darkest, dirtiest corner of the internet"?
ALT1: ... that a "truly filthy" version of Elton John's "Jamaica Jerk-Off" was released as part of a UK Top 40 EP in 1977?
ALT2: ... that Elton John's seventh album has been described as "a solid sixteen quality songs and also "Jamaica Jerk-Off""?
ALT3: ... that the song "Jamaica Jerk-Off" has been described as being "among the most controversial in [Elton] John's entire back catalogue"?
ALT4: ... that "Jamaica Jerk-Off" has been described as being "as ill-advised as any classic rock song has ever been"?
ALT5: ... that "Jamaica Jerk-Off" has been described as "the part of every Goodbye Yellow Brick Road discussion that everyone dreads"?
ALT6: ... that an early Elton John song has been described as "only marginally less horrifying" than its title?
New enough, long enough, I find all of them interesting (expect maybe ALT1), not seeing any in article problems, QPQ done, only issues is that I think the hooks need more links (like [Elton John] and [Goodbye Yellow Brick Road]) and what are these sourced to? Olliefant (she/her)18:35, 5 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article, because there is no requirement to give sources on the nomination. I avoid giving non-bolded links as they divert views. Also, italics are used for major works, not quote marks; see MOS:T.--Launchballer10:25, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think that links should be added particuarly to Yellow Brick Road, it seems unclear whether its referring to the album or the song. (I thought it was the song as I misread it) Olliefant (she/her)19:01, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Songs are surrounded by quote marks, albums are italicised. I would argue that it's clear enough that it's a creative work, but if necessary, I propose ALT5a: ... that "Jamaica Jerk-Off" has been described as "the part of every discussion" of Elton John's seventh album that "everyone dreads"?. Otherwise, there are other hooks.--Launchballer19:10, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that one can sign a deed for an apartment and yet, due to weaknesses in Russian law, courts will often give back the "fraudulently" sold real estate but not require that the seller return the money? Source: Basically the whole premise of the article
ALT1: ... that due to weaknesses in Russian law, signing the deed and paying money to the owner does not at all mean that at the end of the day, you will be with the apartment or the money? Source: as above
ALT2 ... that criminals could scam buyers of their newly-acquired property by claiming in court that they themselves were scammed and so lost all money from the deal? Source: [24]
This review was written in the context of an academic project by User:Assas CHEUNG .
The length of this article does respect DYK criteria because it is far longer than 1,500 characters of prose. Its multiple sections allow it to cover the whole topic, by not only explaining the precise case of the Russian singer Larisa Dolina, but also the scheme tactic on the Russian housing market as a whole. The article keeps a neutral tone by simply presenting the facts and explaining the impacts it had (such as proposed laws) which are interesting. However, while there are a lot of sources and inline citations, most of the sources are in Russian which does mean that we can’t really fact check whether they are reliable or not (except if you speak Russian which I don’t). So I would advice to reference more English sources than the only one there is now (Vanity Fair : reliable but can also be a bit altered for storytelling purposes). Finally, the DYK hooks do manage to captivate attention even if they are quite long (I would say that the alt2 is the least catchy one). Overall, the article in itself is good but the sourcing is what needs to be worked on to be able to be good to go on the main page. -- 3678Agathe (talk) 10:45, 12 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Non-English sources are as a general matter allowed and only should be replaced by English-language sources if available and of equal or superior quality. Just because sources are in Russian doesn't mean they are bad or are impossible to verify. It's just hard to do so if you don't know Russian. Which is why I specifically asked for a person who speaks it so that we don't have the language barrier issue.
Also, I can't help the lack of English-language sources. This is partially a translation from Russian and is a topic that only concerns Russia, so naturally almost all sources will be in Russian. I have a gut feeling that the scam has been tried in many other countries as well, but even if it was, the "perfect storm" only happened in Russia AFAIK. Szmenderowiecki (talk · contribs) 17:09, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I'm a day late with the nomination; requesting an extension to the eligibility per WP:DYKG: The seven-day limit can be extended for a day or two upon request.. To do QPQ within 24 hours.
Created by BeanieFan11 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 437 past nominations.
Comment moved to mainspace on the 6th at 20:18 UTC, so this should be within the 7day guidance. Due to the Christmas holidays, I may not be able to respond within 24 hours. JuniperChill (talk) 20:32, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
comment I did a light copy edit @JuniperChill:, but noticed quite a few places where clarifications are needed, and I don't necessarily think the fact she doesn't wash her hair often is really encyclopaedic Lajmmoore (talk) 09:10, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I may not be able to fully address the concerns today. I have decided to add a citation to the end of the sentence for the hook per WP:DYKHFC (which may have been the reason why you tagged it). I have removed info about "not showering every day" (because some sources advise against doing that), but I do think the info regarding the fact she eats healthy should remain because I think that's what kept her body fit and healthy. This was my 2nd bio article btw. JuniperChill (talk) 17:28, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that for Chama, Soulfly returned to its roots in tribal-influenced metal?
Source: https://blabbermouth.net/reviews/chama: "...the tribal aesthetic that propelled them has been revived and given several thousand volts up its jungle-dwelling backside..."
ALT1: ... that physical copies of Chama come with a short story about the premise of the album? Source: Igor Cavalera, Chama CD booklet, Nuclear Blast Records, 2025
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Comment: I believe the first one is the stronger hook, as I can't any link online to directly cite the booklet in the album.
Converted from a redirect by Jax 0677 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
I can see that perspective too, I was just kinda worried about backing up the DYK with a proper source. On second thought it probably is a stronger hook on terms of people who may not be familiar with that genre of music. - Hurstbergn (talk) 14:12, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Iloilo City used to be the second most important city in the Philippines, next to Manila, and was widely known as the "Queen City of the South," a nickname now mostly associated with Cebu City?
Source: Funtecha, Henry Florida (1992), "Philippine Quarterly of Culture and Society", The Making of a "Queen City": The Case of Iloilo 1890s-1930s, Ann Arbor, Michigan: University of Michigan, pp. 107–132
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Created by Merd123 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
... that painter Emily Powell used her synaesthesia to portray British prime minister Keir Starmer as a potted plant? Source: ITV: Emily Powell, 34, has synaesthesia, a perceptual phenomenon which causes her to see the world through the lens of colour. Ms Powell, who lives in Brixham and has a studio in Dartmoor, said when she meets people, she often thinks of ways to showcase who they are through colour. She said: “Building a colour profile in my mind is how I make sense of people, as I get to know them more shades and colours are added.” In her series called “the Greenhouse of Commons” she has reimagined political commentators and politicians including Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, former premier Lady Thatcher and Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rayner as floral displays, with different colours used to typify the qualities she feels they convey. Ms Powell said she depicted the Prime Minister as a plant in a “sensible pot” to represent his practical nature.
This article contains a catchy hook, the tone used is neutral and sources are properly verified. This article is short and concise but still expresses well Emily Powell's work and how she perceives nature and plants as a way to express her sensibility*
QPQ is good, article is in decent shape, hook is interesting and sourced. Earwig clears. My only concern is that this article might not pass WP:NCOLLATH; is there any evidence that Pinnick is a particularly remarkable college athlete? Most of the coverage seems WP:ROUTINE or non-independent. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs01:58, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. This profile in The Sacramento Bee has some 50 sentences of independent coverage directly covering the subject. There are also articles like 1 and 2, which are directly about the subject and contain some 20 additional sentences of direct coverage. P.S. I think you might've accidentally deleted BeanieFan11's comment. JTtheOG (talk) 02:36, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that John A. Jakle has co-authored nine books on "roadside America", including books on motels, road signs, gas stations, parking lots, and fast-food restaurants?
Source: "In Supplanting America's Railroads, geographer John Jakle and historic preservationist Keith Sculle, authors of eight important books on the material culture of the American automobile, turn to the railroad's response to the automobile from 1900 to 1940. During these years, railroads lost their near-monopoly on moving passengers and freight. Jakle and Sculle demonstrate that as motor vehicle com- petition emerged, railroads both adapted to this new mode of transportation, and adopted automotive technology themselves." The Journal of Transport History
"It is the latest in a series of books the pair has co-authored focusing on elements of “roadside America.” Others in the series have considered the written, oral and visual histories of gas stations, fast-food restaurants, motels, signs, parking and the broader theme of “motoring.”"
The article was moved to mainspace on December 7, which is within seven days of creation. It is new enough and long enough, and I did not find any issues with close paraphrasing or sourcing. A full QPQ has been completed. I do not think the hook is interesting: the "Person has done OnlyFans/has worked with an OnlyFans creator" angle has already been used multiple times in some form this year, including the hook for Bop House. Saying that it is interesting because "similar hooks did well" is an WP:OSE case, and I do not believe that simply mentioning OnlyFans in a hook automatically makes it meet DYKINT. Plenty of TikTok creators have collaborated with OnlyFans personalities, and I cannot see why this particular case is any more unusual or interesting than the others. Please propose a different angle. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:48, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The first hook is not very interesting: plenty of people have used social media at that young of an age (social media age restrictions are notoriously easy to bypass). The second hook is not directly supported in the article (the article makes no mention of her making hundreds of thousands per month, only that she had earned millions). Normally, I'd say that I'm open to it, but considering what went on with the Squad, and the association with OnlyFans, I'm starting to question if it is right to even run this article on DYK at all. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:46, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I amended the article so that it says "By January 2022, Rockelle was earning between $4.2 and $7.5 million per year"; WP:CALC would make ALT2a: ... that Piper Rockelle was making several hundred thousand dollars per month by 14? acceptable but I'm sure I could tweak it again if preferred. As for her Squad/OnlyFans activities precluding a main page run, there are consensuses in WT:DYK archives that even hardcore porn hooks are acceptable (The Cock Destroyers and The World's Biggest Gang Bang III ran following discussions), and it just isn't right to penalise Rockelle due to the behaviour of her mother.--Launchballer03:23, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's not specifically the porn stuff that's giving me pause (I've supported porn-related hooks running in the past), it's more the timeline of it happening. It also doesn't help that the article wording is vague that the issues actually involved her mother and not she herself (remember that the subject's surname is also "Smith", so the article could easily be misinterpreted to mean that it was Piper who was involved, not her mother). At the very least, I'd like to see the article first be reworded to remove any potential ambiguity. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:21, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Due to the nature of the subject and its content, I am requesting a second review to sign off the hook and article. Note that, if ever, only ALT2a remains under consideration, as the other hooks remain rejected. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:21, 12 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article is new, Finnfrog99, but I cannot accept it as long enough. Without the lead section, which repeats the rest of the content, it's only around 1400 characters long. I also think that the hook should be abouth the brothers if the article is about brothers. Surtsicna (talk) 00:48, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article is new, very detailed, and well-sourced. There is no close paraphrasing or neutrality issues.
It's an excellent hook. The connection to James Stewart is catchy and clearly verified in the text with citations [3] and [5].
The article is ready, but please ensure the QPQ link is added to the nomination.
... that Tudor Arghezi(pictured), "perhaps the strongest personality in all of 20th-century Romanian literature", claimed he could identify cancerous people by their "smell"?
Source: Eugen Simion, "Arghezi, Tudor", in Dicționarul general al literaturii române. A/B, p. 369. Bucharest: Museum of Romanian Literature, 2016. ISBN978-973-167-381-3: El este, probabil, personalitatea cea mai puternică din literatura română a secolului al XX-lea. ("He is perhaps the strongest personality in all of 20th-century Romanian literature."). Ovid S. Crohmălniceanu, Amintiri deghizate, p. 26. Bucharest: Editura Nemira, 1994. ISBN973-9144-49-7: "Tot învîrtindu-mă printre canceroși, am început să-i recunosc după miros, domnule Crohmălniceanu", mă asigură Arghezi. [...] "Profesorul Bagdasar susținea că trebuie să am un cancer. Eu îl miroseam la el, de cum intrasem în cabinet. A și murit peste puțin timp de asta. ("'I spent so much time around cancer patients that I came to recognize them by their smell, Mr Crohmălniceanu', Arghezi would assure me. [...] 'Professor Bagdasar was of the opinion that I myself must have gotten cancer. I, on the other hand, smelled cancer on him, as soon as I walked into his practice. And he up and died a short while after.'")
... that the molly species Poecilia koperi and P. wandae are not completely genetically separate, probably because they sometimes interbreed where their ranges overlap?
Source: "We found evidence for incomplete lineage sorting of alleles of the slightly older P. koperi and P. wandae. On the other hand, contemporary hybridization-mediated gene introgression between P. koperi and P. wandae along the contact zone around Lake Maracaibo, Venezuela, may also be resulting in us recovering these taxa as paraphyletic."
ALT1: ... that the genetic lines of Poecilia koperi and P. wandae blur in areas where they meet, likely due to occasional hybridization?
ALT2: ... that the molly species Poecilia koperi and P. wandae do not form fully distinct genetic groups, possibly a result of interbreeding along their shared habitats?
@Surtsicna: Long enough, new enough. Both QPQs are done and Earwig is nice and quiet. Big dislike on the single-sentence lead paragraphs but that's not a DYK issue. The problem you have is that I don't see how any of the hooks meet WP:DYKINT.--Launchballer02:55, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The problem you have is that these hooks rely on knowing what a molly species is or that it's unusual for genetic lines to blur. I certainly didn't.--Launchballer18:45, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Earwig gives 10% (which is good), I spot-checked references 5, 17, and 8 (one instance each) on this revision. 5 does not support Throughout the conflicts, there were many reports of killings, secret detention centers, and military-controlled zones where civilians were last seen. Many of these places eventually later suspected of being site of mass grave. 17 says there were 335 individuals' remains found, not 346. 8 doesn't mention Rajapaska or the IPKF. Unless I'm being stupid, it's concerning that none of the ones I spot-checked supported the whole text. I'm not sure whether this ought to be a quickfail, but I'm willing to give you a chance to go through the article and tighten up the sourcing. Regarding the hook, I like the original one, though I'd change the wording to ...that up to the present-day archaeologists...Kowal2701 (talk) 22:48, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Given that both the nominator and the reviewer are new to DYK and this is considered a contentious topic, requesting a second opinion from a more experienced editor, preferably one who is familiar with contentious matter. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:09, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewing a DYK is a part of an academic assignment with the supervision of User:Assas CHEUNG. I have no past experience with Wikipedia, so I hope everyone can understand.
The article satisfies all DYK requirements:
- It was created within the required 7 day of the nomination.
- It exceeds the 1,500-character minimum.
- Uses many reliable sources and references.
- The article uses a neutral tone with no promotional or negative language and no plagiarism.
- The hook is clearly supported by a statement mentioned in the article and interesting.
Good to go.
2049Océane (talk) 16:56, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that a funerary stele discovered in Al-Qunayyah, Jordan, features superimposed portraits, a style influenced by Roman funerary art?
Source: Gharib, Aliquot & Weber-Karyotakis 2017, ADAJ 58, pp. 225–229. The frontal view of the block displays two superimposed frontal human busts in an architectural framing... The origins of this kind of monument may be sought in late republican Roman Italy, where funerary bust galleries, sometimes superimposed on registers... This group was strongly influenced by Roman funerary art and the Hellenised iconographic conventions of the neighbouring Decapolis communities.
ALT1: ... that archaeological finds from Al-Qunayyah in Jordan suggest that a rural Roman sanctuary once stood there, within the civic territory of ancient Gerasa? Source: Gharib, Aliquot & Weber-Karyotakis 2017, ADAJ 58, pp. 230–231 The use of the Pompeian era and the location of al-Qunayyah… suggest that the site belonged to the civic territory of Gerasa in the Roman period.; Gharib & Aliquot 2021, ADAJ 60, p. 666. According to its provenance, the altar probably comes from the same place of worship as the inscribed altar published in our first report. This new discovery encourages further research in al-Qunayyah. It now seems more than likely that the place was the site of a rural sanctuary in Roman times.
ALT2: ... that an altar uncovered at Al-Qunayyah is dated by the Pompeian era calendar, placing its dedication in autumn 274 AD? Source: Gharib, Aliquot & Weber-Karyotakis 2017, ADAJ 58, pp. 230–231. The era adopted at alQunayeh was thus necessarily the Pompeian era with a 63 BC epoch, as in the neighbouring cities of Gerasa (Jarash) and Philadelphia (Amman)… According to this chronology, the month of Hyperberetaios in the year 337 occurs in autumn 274 AD.
ALT3: ... that Al-Qunayyah, a village in Jordan, is thought to have been the site of a Roman-era sanctuary? Source: Gharib & Aliquot 2021, ADAJ 60, p. 666. According to its provenance, the altar probably comes from the same place of worship as the inscribed altar published in our first report. This new discovery encourages further research in al-Qunayyah. It now seems more than likely that the place was the site of a rural sanctuary in Roman times.
The hook is clear, interesting, and supported by the sources. The contrast between Paulina Tamayo releasing many albums and still saying she preferred direct contact with the public makes for a good DYK fact.
The sourcing looks solid: her website confirms the fifteen albums, and the Spanish quote directly states that she didn’t consider herself an artist who recorded a lot because she valued connecting with audiences.
There is a small difference in numbers (fifteen albums vs. twelve CDs), but it doesn’t affect the accuracy of the hook. Adding a short note in the article to explain this difference would help avoid confusion.
The hook reads well, though it could be slightly smoother. For example: “… that although Paulina Tamayo released fifteen albums, she said she preferred connecting with audiences over making recordings?”
Overall, this meets DYK standards and is ready to proceed with only minor clarifications. * -->
... that Eratosthenes, the librarian of the Great Library of Alexandria, was nicknamed "Beta" ("Second"), because he wasn't considered the best at anything?
Source: "In the late third century BC, Eratosthenes, then chief librarian of the Great Library of Alexandria in Egypt, calculated the circumference of the Earth based upon the difference between the shadow cast by the pointer (gnomon) of a sundial in Alexandria at midday on the Summer Solstice, and compared the angle created by the shadow to the knowledge that at the city of Syene to the south no shadow was cast by a gnomon at the same time on the same day."
Matthew, Christopher A. Eratosthenes and the Measurement of the Earth’s Circumference (c. 230 BC). p. xxii.
"The extensive nature of Eratosthenes’ later scholarly endeavors partially supports this view: he was expert, but not the expert, in many things, and thus was called "Beta" ("Second") or "Pentathlos.""
Roller, Duane. Eratosthenes' Geography: fragments collected and translated, with commentary and additional material. p. 9.
Source: "In the late third century BC, Eratosthenes, then chief librarian of the Great Library of Alexandria in Egypt, calculated the circumference of the Earth based upon the difference between the shadow cast by the pointer (gnomon) of a sundial in Alexandria at midday on the Summer Solstice, and compared the angle created by the shadow to the knowledge that at the city of Syene to the south no shadow was cast by a gnomon at the same time on the same day."
Matthew, Christopher A. Eratosthenes and the Measurement of the Earth’s Circumference (c. 230 BC). p. xxii.
"He became a close associate of Archimedes, who may have visited Alexandria at about this time."
Roller, Duane. Eratosthenes' Geography: fragments collected and translated, with commentary and additional material. p. 9.
"Conversely, Archimedes dedicated his work The Method to Eratosthenes— calling him 'a man of considerable eminence in philosophy and an admirer [of mathematical enquiry]'."
Matthew, Christopher A. Eratosthenes and the Measurement of the Earth’s Circumference (c. 230 BC). p. 13.
Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by TouchedWithFire (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
The article was expanded and promoted to GA status just yesterday after a thorough review by MisterCake, who went over neutrality, sourcing, and copyright. Nomination date and length fine. The quotes provided verify the hooks, and the image is an etching from the 18th century, so there shouldn't be any licensing issues with using it. The nominator is exempt from QPQ. As for the hooks, the first one really stands out, but it could use a little attribution for neutrality, we shouldn't say he was never the best in Wikipedia's voice (Though definitely not a BLP issue: time has given him plenty of distance...). Something like ... that Eratosthenes, the librarian of the Great Library of Alexandria, was nicknamed "Beta" ("Second") because his peers thought he was never the best at anything? keeps the fun of the original while staying more neutral. ALT1 is solid too, though "associate" might be a safer choice than "friend," as per the source, but ALT0 is definitely the stronger hook. Thanks for the great work on this article! Mariamnei (talk) 17:28, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Andradjati spent most of his time in the Changi Airport during his tenure as Indonesia's deputy ambassador to Singapore? Source: "Menghabiskan Waktu Di Bandara Changi" [Spending Time at Changi Airport]. Tabloid Diplomasi. June 22, 2011. Archived from the original on 16 January 2018. Retrieved 7 December 2025. Diplomat yang selalu berupaya menyediakan waktu untuk jogging dan aerobic ini juga mempunyai pengalaman unik ketika penempatan di Singapura, dimana sebagian besar waktunya dihabiskan di bandara Changi. "The diplomat, who always tries to make time for jogging and aerobics, also had a unique experience during his deployment in Singapore, where most of his time was spent at Changi Airport."
... that Governor Anawrahta was pardoned by two different Ava kings for his allegiance to Hanthawaddy, only to die mysteriously shortly after the second pardon?
Source: The first pardon by King Thado: Chronicle sources of (Yazawin Thit Vol. 1 2012: 280) and (Hmannan Vol. 2 2003: 73-74).
The second pardon by King Narapati and subsequent death: (Yazawin Thit Vol. 1 2012: 289) and (Hmannan Vol. 2 2003: 88)
I have reviewed this nomination. The article is detailed, neutral, and easily meets the length requirements. I found the hook particularly effective: the irony of him surviving two royal pardons only to "die mysteriously" immediately afterwards makes for a very compelling story for the Main Page. I verified that the facts are properly supported by the citations in the text. Good to go.
Sorry @Camilasdandelions:, this doesn't appear to have been expanded 5x in the last 10 days? When you started editing on 8 December (first edits on this article since November) the article was at 6,250 characters "readable prose size" according to DYKcheck, and it's now at 14,529, which I make to be a 2.3x expansion. Please see WP:DYK5X. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 19:25, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jonathan Deamer:[31] Per this source, the size has been expanded over 5 times.
@Camilasdandelions: No, 5x expansion applies to expansion over a span of the previous seven days before nomination. Your expansion brings it from 6236 B to 14,000 B, which is a 2.24x expansion. Same with going by word count. Unless you can expand it 31180 B – which is probably impossible while following Wikipedia policy – then this nomination fails. Roast (talk) 04:10, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yeah after the nomination at GARC, I was about to ask you, anyway I fixed to this. Btw should I decline this request first? Or is it able to keep it for now? I'm first at DYK, so I'm bit confused rn Camilasdandelions (talk!) 12 December 2025 (UTC).
I disagree. GA reviews usually don't take that long. We've had nominations delayed by AfDs for several weeks; leaving this for a few days while a GA review takes place is next to nothing.--Launchballer01:21, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am conducting this DYK review as part of an academic project, under the supervision of User:Assas CHEUNG.
The article on Higher Than Heaven is neutral, well sourced and uses many direct quotes from the artist and music critics. It testifies to a real commitment of the author.
Hook short: – clear and understandable sentence
Hook sourced: – reliable quotes from interviews and media
Factually correct hook: – faithfully reflects the content
Extension: 60 207 64 960 bytes; not yet 5
Sources and citations: – more than 70 reliable sources
This article is a beautiful tribute to Elie Goulding, it was made with care and passion. It was written by a person who knows how to inquire, and put his heart into the work.
Indeed, I find the article neutral with many quotes from Elie Goulding to support the statements made in the article, but also other quotes from all kinds of artists or music critics. Which makes it an article with feelings while maintaining a degree of neutrality on the part of the writer. The quotes emphasize facts and not a part of position.
This article was first published on December 8, 2025, which means that on December 18, 2025, this article must have been increased by 5x its original size, for now it has gone from 60 207 bytes to 64 960 bytes, which is far from being a sufficient expansion to comply with the DYK rules. On the other hand, this article has indeed been modified within the last 10 days following its publication.
Based on several articles about the release of the album Higher Than Heaven, this article seems reliable and shows a real work of the author. However, according to the Copyvio page of Wikipedia, about 43.2% of the text could correspond to content already existing in other articles. This number may seem high, but it is probably explained by the abundance of quotes from interviews and articles published online, which is normal in this type of journal. It is indeed very unlikely that the author could have written the entire article solely from personal research or direct interviews with Ellie Goulding or music critics. Finally, I find that the brackets are well highlighted and their impact is linked to reliable and diverse sources, whether they are books or videos, like different ones from newspapers, we find everything, and in addition there are more than 70 sources cited in the article which shows a real investment of the writer and good reliability. To illustrate my remarks, let’s take this sentence “Written largely in response to the COVID-19 pandemic, Goulding deliberately shifted the focus of the album away from the deep introspection of its predecessor, describing it as her 'least personal album' to date in favor of escapism and pure thrills.”. It is understandable independently of the article and summarizes in clear the key information of the album. Moreover, we have the hook that reminds us of what the COVID-19 period is and links it to the article on why and how this period has a link with the analysis of the album. Even though this Hook may seem a bit long, it is perfectly integrated and understandable.
This Hook perfectly illustrates the good integration of the hook and verifiability, among many other successful examples in the article
Prove by all these criteria, if this article, within the last 6 days remaining for its modification, is extended can be an article respecting the DYK rules and can become a real reference in Elie Goulding’s Wikipedia page with a page dedicated to his latest album, which makes her the British female artist with the largest number of number one albums alongside Adèle.4055Zoé (talk) 11:53, 12 December 2025 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4055Zoé (talk • contribs) 11:50, 12 December 2025 (UTC)4055Zoé (talk)[reply]
Source: Dreweatts: "Surviving work by her in private hands seems to be extremely rare with just two other works appearing at auction in the last 30 years."
ALT1: ... that Edith Maryon's sculptureThe Dance of Anitra(pictured) depicts Maud Allan as a desert tribeswoman? Source: Plenty of sources, but the same Dreweatts source sums it up concisely: "The depiction of Maud Allan in this bronze . . . [depicts] the seductive dance which emphasises the grace and beauty of Anitra, who is a daughter of a chieftain that is seduced by but cheats and steal from Peer Gynt."
The article is new enough – don't be confused by the creation date, it was moved from the editor's sandbox on 9 December. Long enough. Both hooks are cited in the article, though ALT1 cites a different source there than it does here. The rest of the article appears to be well-sourced. I'm personally partial to the first hook.
The only reason I'm not immediately approving this is because a significant proportion of the article, at least two-thirds, is dedicated to extensive biographies of Edith Maryon, Maud Allan, and a description of the play Peer Gynt. The information on Maryon is longer than her own article! This isn't strictly a DYK issue, more a GA one, but DYK guidelines allow for more subjective issues. The information is good, well-sourced, and elegantly written, but too off-topic.
I would suggest significantly shortening these sections here and incorporating the additional information into their respective articles – the section on Maryon could be copied verbatim into the article on her. I'd have to see how the article looks once this is done to properly assess it. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 21:15, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the review, Krisgabwoosh. I understand your point, and did wonder if someone might comment on the long background section, or point out that The information on Maryon is longer than her own article On the latter score, I think the answer is clear: It is not that the discussion here is too long, but that the discussion there is too short. She has two biographies, after all, and her article could be greatly expanded. (Take a look at her brother's article, which is far longer, for context.) As for the overall length of the background section, that's more of a judgment call. But it's worth remembering that four weighty topics coalesce around this sculpture: (1) Maryon, at the end of the conventional portion of her sculpture career, and transitioning into another, (2) Allan, conquering London, her statuettes sold at tourist shops, and the talk of town both to her face and behind her back, (3) Peer Gynt (the play), and the events that led to a girl in the desert dancing for the pleasure of a fraudulent prophet, and (4) Peer Gynt (the music), among the most famous of Edvard Grieg's works, and the music to which Allan-cum-Anitra danced. All that is to say, there's certainly a lot of context, but there's a lot to contextualize. --Usernameunique (talk) 21:42, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I understand your perspective Usernameunique, although I'd still argue that a lot of intricate detail does not relate to the statuette itself. Does half a paragraph about Maryon's siblings or about Allan's parents provide context to the topic? The extensive description of all five acts of Peer Gynt could easily be condensed to focus on Anitra's specific role in the story. If this were a GA review I would want these issues addressed, and I'd urge you to do so regardless. Though, admittedly, it is not a GA nom, I'm still a bit unsure about proceeding. I'm going to leave this on hold for a moment to allow other editors to chime in with their perspectives, or else I will pass it as is. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 22:15, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Krisgabwoosh. The article is currently nominated for GA; is it worth leaving the issue for now, and letting the future reviewer weigh in? (By the way, a ping works only when you sign your comment in the same edit that you make the ping. So when I forget to ping someone, usually I delete my signature from my comment, then add the ping and re-sign the comment in the next edit.) --Usernameunique (talk) 04:37, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I hadn't noticed it was already a GA nom. In that case, Usernameunique, I'll leave outstanding issues to the GA reviewer. My main concern was whether the article would still meet DYK requirements if the background section was significantly shortened, but it probably still would even if the entire "Background" section were removed outright. Given that, and since no one else has commented in the last few days, I'll accept this as is. Cheers! Krisgabwoosh (talk) 07:16, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Task Force 38 had been hitting Japan but now was retiring for replenishment under radio silence. Using a radioman from Halsey's staff, the Anzio began sending the deception traffic on the eleventh. This chicanery was intended to keep the Japanese on edge and fearful of the presence of TF 38 ... As they headed for port, the Anzio's crew claimed that theirs was the 'only ship to relieve the entire Task Force 38.'" Y'Blood, William (2012), The Little Giants: U.S. Escort Carriers Against Japan, Naval Institute Press, p. 399.
"The object was to give the impression to enemy radio monitors and traffic analysts that the powerful task force was still operating in the vicinity ... Her crew has insisted ever since that theirs was the only ship to relieve the entire task force 38." War History, Coral Sea, 8/27/43 to 10/10/44 Anzio History, 10/10/44 to 9/30/45, pp. 59–60.
Improved to Good Article status by Stikkyy (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
... that the developers of Arlington Forest(house pictured) followed the U.S. government's recommendations for both residential architecture and racially restrictive covenants?
Article is new enough and the claim is backed up by an RS. Normally I would approve ALT0, but given that this is an WP:AMPOL topic, I'd rather make sure it doesn't run afoul of any relevant guidelines before giving it the go-ahead. I'm asking for someone with experience in this to provide input before a decision is made. Gommeh📖🎮12:59, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I removed what was probably a typo from ALT1 as well (stray word "information" where it would make no grammatical sense to have that word). The hook itself looks fine, but I'd suggest proofreading all these once more. Also I would recommend wikilinking Venezuela and potentially United States. Gommeh📖🎮14:28, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I removed a lot of too-close paraphrasing and failure to attribute, but I've been too busy to check for more, and suggest further checks would be useful. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:44, 12 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that following the first run of the annual Japan Cup in 1981, two of the jockeys briefly went missing?
Source: Coleman, Jim (1981-11-28). "Call the Cops". Medicine Hat News. p. 18. Having completed their equestrian chores at the Japanese Jockey Club [after the race], Duffy and Stahlbaum were expected to return before Wednesday to Toronto's Greenword track, where they had contractual riding engagements. However, they didn't arrive in Toronto on Wednesday; they didn't arrive on Thursday – and the Canadian thoroughbred racing session ends next week.
ALT2 = ... that in 1981, the horses from outside of Japan dominated the first annual Japan Cup race to such an extent that the shocked organizers thought a Japanese horse might never actually win the event? Source: Yamamoto, Tomoyuki (2018-11-25). 韓国馬が地元G1で日本馬にボロ負けする理由 [Why Korean horses lose to Japanese horses in local G1s]. 東洋経済オンライン [Toyo Keizai Weekly] (in Japanese). Archived from the original on 2025-10-09. Retrieved 2025-10-05. 第1回はアメリカの二流牝馬メアジードーツにコースレコードを1秒更新され、日本の競馬関係者は「永遠に勝てないのではないか」と強い衝撃を受けた。 [The first race saw the course record broken by a second-rate American mare, Mairzy Doates, and Japanese horse racing officials were shocked, thinking that they might never be able to win.]
ALT3 = ... that despite the 1984 Japan Cup being built up as the first ever showdown between two Japanese Triple Crown champions, both horses ended up losing to another horse that led in first the whole race? Source: カツラギエース [Katsuragi Ace]. Japan Racing Association (in Japanese). Archived from the original on 2025-05-12. Retrieved 2025-11-14.
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Comment: I've listed this in rough personal preference of pick, ie MAIN > ALT 1 & 2 > ALT 3. Ultimately though I'm happy with any of these, so I'm more than happy to trust in the reviewer's judgement as this is my first DYK nomination :) I have included a few backup DYK options in the collapsible below, although I'm not sure they're as catchy as the above.
Further DYKs if the above don't pass review
ALT4 = ... that during the events of the most recent Japan Cup, no less than three of the racing jockeys were thrown off their horse? Source: Stevens, James (2025-11-30). "Calandagan wins close to £5 million with history-making Japan Cup success in course-record time". Racing Post. Archived from the original on 2025-11-30. Retrieved 2025-11-30. In a race with drama aplenty from the start – Admire Terra unseated Yuga Kawada and ran loose down the outside of the field, ... However, Lemaire was one of two riders to be unseated shortly after the line, with Keita Tosaki also unshipped on third home Danon Decile on his first start since the Juddmonte International.
ALT6 = ... that every year after the Japan Cup is run, the Government of Ireland awards the winner the Ambassador of Ireland Prize? Source: "The Thoroughbred Connection: Ireland & Japan's Racing Legacy". Ireland.ie. Government of Ireland. 2025-09-16. Archived from the original on 2025-10-09. Retrieved 2025-10-04. This bond dates back decades to 1983, when the Irish-trained mare Stanerra stunned the racing world with her win in the Japan Cup, a victory that was the catalyst of a lasting connection between the two nations. Those influences still hold today and since 1990, the winner of the Japan Cup at JRA Tokyo Racecourse has been honoured with the annual Ambassador of Ireland Prize.
Improved to Good Article status by RandomEditsForWhenIRemember (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
... that the British Ministry of Munitions used wartime "dilution" schemes to replace skilled male engineers with women and unskilled men in munitions factories during the First World War?
... that the snail Physella acuta(pictured) can flick its shell up to 120⁰ to defend itself against predators?
Source: Naranjo-Garcia, E.; Appleton, C. C. (2009). "The architecture of the physid musculature of Physa acuta Draparnaud, 1805 (Gastropoda: Physidae)". African Invertebrates. 50 (1): 1–11. Bibcode:2009AfrIn..50....1N. doi:10.5733/afin.050.0101. hdl:10520/EJC84644.
ALT1: ... that Physella acuta(pictured) is considered the world's most cosmopolitan snail? Source: Dillon Jr., R. T.; Wethington, A. R.; Rhett, J. M.; Smith, T. P. (2002). "Populations of the European freshwater pulmonate Physa acuta are not reproductively isolated from American Physa heterostropha or Physa integra". Invertebrate Biology. 121 (3): 226–234. Bibcode:2002InvBi.121..226D. doi:10.1111/j.1744-7410.2002.tb00062.x. ISSN 1744-7410.
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Comment: If the proposed image isn't good enough, I can crop another one!
Improved to Good Article status by Barbalalaika (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
@Lajmmoore:Long enough, new enough. QPQs are both done and Earwig has no valid complaints. No reason why either might deserve a maintenance template. "Pathological jealousy" is unattributed in the hook, but I would suggest swapping it out for something else; my suggestion is strip clubs.--Launchballer13:39, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Craig Claiborne believed if he wrote an article on shrimp, Myra Waldo would soon be contacted by "every publisher in New York to write THE definitive shrimp cookbook"?
"Craig Claiborne says: "If I write an article in The Times on a woman who cooks shrimp, the next day she'll be called by every publisher in New York to write THE definitive shrimp cookbook."
@Lajmmoore: Long enough, new enough. QPQs done and Earwig is clean. No reason why any of them would deserve a maintenance template. As for the hook, I'd substitute "immensely witty" for "having a "souffle touch"" unless you have another idea?--Launchballer01:55, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Munich's Drückebergergasse ("Shirker’s Alley") got its nickname in the 1930s because people used it to avoid giving the Hitler salute at a nearby Nazi memorial?
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5x expanded by Nemoralis (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Source: "In a second incident, San Juan Bautista School in Santiago banned Brewster from its property. Officials posted at least three signs outside the school which read, “The entrance of the US Ambassador of the United States is not permitted in this institute.” They have since been defaced by LGBT activists and were then removed for Holy Week. The school’s director, Fr. Manuel Ruiz, defended the signs,reported Dominican Today. Ruiz told a radio interviewer he had the right to put up signs on private property and that “[Brewster’s] presence and of his partner in a school isn’t innocent."
... that Christl-Marie Schultes learned how to fly instead of attending a cookery course?
Source: [[32]] "Unter dem Vorwand, einen Kochkurs zu besuchen, reiste sie nach Berlin - um Flugstunden zu absolvieren." Trans.:Pretending to attend a cookery course, she travelled to Berlin to attend flying lessons.
ALT1: ... that Christl-Marie Schultes resumed flying six months after losing her left leg in a plane crash? Source: [[33]] "Dabei verlor die Pionierin ihr linkes Bein, dennoch setzte sie sich sechs Monate später wieder in den Flieger" Transl.: The pioneer lost her left leg, but returned to flying six months later.
ALT2: ... that Christl-Marie Schultes was the first female aviator from Bavaria? Source: [[34]] "[...], als Christl-Marie Schultes, die erste bayerische Pilotin, am Himmel ihre Runden drehte." Transl.: [...] as Christl-Marie Schultes, the first female Bavarian pilot, circled through the sky.
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Moved to mainspace by LightlySeared (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Proposing ALT3: ... that the remnants of Cyclone Hudhud caused severe snowstorms in Nepal? Hurricanes, associated with tropical weather (literally "tropical cyclones" in some places) don't often cause snowstorms. But also, what's interesting to me might be really mundane to others (speaking from experience!), so let me know your thoughts. Source: Reuters. Best, Staraction (talk·contribs) 00:33, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah this is also what I was going for in ALT1 and 2, but I'm not sure if there's a better way to convey if this is unusual. Working on a few other ALTs that might be more interesting right now. HurricaneZetaC00:38, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
[35] might also be of interest, but it also seems trivial enough to not include in the article. Additionally, [36] is mostly a prediction of what will happen, and I found but haven't looked into [37]. HurricaneZetaC00:57, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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@Earth605: Article is new and long enough, external policy compliant, and is presentable. The hooks are cited to reliable sources and are interesting. Images are freely licensed and a QPQ was carried out. ALT0 is a bit of a borderline case for interestingness; it's common for companies to be named after their industry and some may not find it interesting. ALT1 is a contentious claim; although the policy states that it's okay to have such hooks, it's a bit controversial these days to nominate such a hook, and it's a little promotional for my liking. I will approve ALT2, but the source says that the phrase complements the company's name, not that the company was named after that specific phrase (courtesy pinging Reverosie, who may be interested in this discussion). Icepinner 03:14, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
Ok then, I shall greenlight ALT2b. Icepinner 03:34, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
pulling this because there seems to be an ongoing notability dispute. When the tag is off for good or an AfD has been completed, we can reassess here :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 04:08, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
On hold pending the results of the AFD discussion. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 21:57, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
No. If the main issue is the images, then the solution is simply to run the article without an image. I imagine though that the rather long and complicated discussion above has discouraged editors from reviewing this. Anyway, a full review is still needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:40, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
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The primary hook is fine by me (with the parenthetical "depicted" note removed and no potentially copyvio image). If anyone wants something else, the part about adding "the Catholic League's article calling The Little Hours 'trash, pure trash' to their marketing materials" (i.e., something along the lines of ALT2) might be the place to look.
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@RiiffTower: Long enough, new enough. QPQ unnecessary and Earwig is clean. There is an {{orphan}} template on the page, and this can be resolved by linking the article at Kansk and Ussuriysk, but this isn't technically a DYK issue. What is, however, is that I'm not convinced ALT2 will fly on WP:DYKBLP grounds; I can suggest ALT3: ... that Vitaly Nalivkin (pictured) was awarded an anti-award for his questionable achievements in the field of law? or (something like) ALT4: ... that the actor who played the successful sketch show character Vitaly Nalivkin (pictured) was still living in poverty five years into playing him? Also, I've never seen that image tag before - @Nikkimaria:, could you confirm it's valid?--Launchballer 00:39, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
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The nominator has not edited since November 22 and did not respond to the above comment. Given the unresolved issues with the article, I am marking this for closure as abandoned. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:18, 6 December 2025 (UTC)
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Ah, I hadn't noticed it was already a GA nom. In that case, Usernameunique, I'll leave outstanding issues to the GA reviewer. My main concern was whether the article would still meet DYK requirements if the background section was significantly shortened, but it probably still would even if the entire "Background" section were removed outright. Given that, and since no one else has commented in the last few days, I'll accept this as is. Cheers! Krisgabwoosh (talk) 07:16, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
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